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sales2099 said:
DucksUnlimited said:
sales2099 said:
DucksUnlimited said:
sales2099 said:
Yup, a bad attempt to capture the Smash Bros sales pie.

Always thought this games roster said that Sony was never big on their own mascots.

You mean because of the 3 or so third party characters?

More then 3, but that beyond Drake and Kratos, there truly is no mass awareness mascots in there. Just the way it is.

Ahh you're right. it was 4. i've made a terrible mistake.

How is sackboy not mass awareness when LBP sold better than any GoW game? And Toro is literally Sony's main mascot in Japan, so I'm not sure why you wouldn't include him. Beyond Mario, DK, Link and Pokemon, there aren't really any big Nintendo mascots. Would you argue that Nintendo has never been big on their mascots? Lol.

Given Sackboy is only from this gen and sales dropped off considerably after each new LBP comes out, I wouldn't consider him a sustainable mass awareness mascot. Toro....not exactly known outside Japan. I mean when Nintendo introduced Marth and Roy, not exactly known western mascots......Nintendo does the smart thing and makes a western release of Fire Emblem games. I have seen no Toro games worth noting in western markets.

The Mario IP is so huge there are dozens of characters that are now mass market aware by association, just because they are seen in mario games.

A Goomba has more awareness then most Sony mascots.......

This debate has been done countless times in the months before this game released. The sales of this game compared to Smash Bros only solidifies my stance......Sony was not in a position to make a mascot based fighting game. You could say MS is even worse, but then again they don't have their own fighting game.

Bolded: Considering there have only been 2 LBP games and the second one still sold 3 million despite little marketing and a lack of bundling as compared to the first game, Sackboy is most certainly a notable mascot.

Underlined: He was a character in Street Fighter X Tekken, which sold primarily in the west.

Italicized: No, the sales solidify the stance that the game mechanics and presentation were just lackluster, not to mention the absolutely horrid marketing for the game.