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ListerOfSmeg said:
Not only will it never pass it but it will be Sony lowest selling console to date. The problem with PS4 is that its not something the mainstream audience is going to want to deal with. Having extra hidden charges to access any form of online and designing it to look like a Wii upgrade ( my opinion but anyone who looks at the PS4 standing up against a Wii and claims they look nothing a like has some serious blinders on. is going to really hurt them.

I don't care how many Sony fans (mods or not. Yeah you know who are Mr even suggesting Nintendo beat E3 is extreme trolling with no basis.) don't agree with me. It's as valid a point as any other being put fourth. It's going to be the Vita all over again when consumers see they have to pay an extra 50( or whatever it costs) each year just to access the internet in any way.

I wish I could find it again but one guy named Movie Bob brought up some valid points that Sony's first two wins were just flukes created by a vacuum in the market. I agree because since then they have lost all focus and seem intent on emulating their competitors rather than do their own things.

It won't outsell the Wii U? Do you think the Wii U will sell a ton of units because the Wii was such a success? The PS4 will at least sell 50 million lifetime.The Gamecube sold 20 million units, and the Wii sold 100 million units. People seem to think Nintendo just gained like 60+ million fans all of a sudden. Nintendo caught the casual market then, they're not catching them this gen. They benefited from a low price with the Wii, not so much ths gen. So I see the Wii U selling 35 million max in it's lifetime.