How not to defend atheism

[Zappykins]

Calmador said:

Zappykins said:

It might not have been.  And I'm not saying you are, but you got to see where they(he) are(is) coming from.  Some people who call themselves Christians have been viciously nasty to gay people trying to deny them their dignity, right to work, right to love, be in a family, etc. Plus, that 'death penalty to gay' in Uganda is mostly sponsored by Christians from the USA.

I find if someone has to tell you what they are, it's because that is how they want you to perceive them.  It may have nothing to do with how they actually live.  It's like those people that say, "I'm a giving person!" when in reality they are total narcissistic users.

Your reply is sorta of a mix bag for me. As a Christain, I see the world in a radically different way. I believe in never doing any evil what so ever. As an example, I know about a Christian that told a hindu lady that he would rather die starving than steal food because doing the right thing before God was more important than living itself. Strangely, the hindu lady looked at him very awkwardly at him. I thought that instant... if only everyone was like him... that'd be the end of unjustified wars... theft... lying and a whole lot of other evils in an instant.

This is the Christian life and there are MANY posers... that are beginner Christians that are learning the ropes.

I believe that homosexuality is evil. Understand that isaid... homosexuality... not homosexual. Do you see the difference? I'll explain just incase...

A homosexual is a PERSON.

Homosexuality is a concept that a person might practice.

I love the homosexual but absolutely think his/her homosexuality is evil.

I don't hate homosexuals (PEOPLE)... I'm not afraid of homosexuals (PEOPLE) ... but I think homosexualuty (CONCEPT) is absolutely evil.

I just wanted to clear that up.

Alrighty, anyways, I think a lot people stereotype me as hateful when in all honesty I don't have a shred of hate towards homosexual people. Yet, when I say... hi I'm a Christian... people do that. And you know regardless of the past... its still wrong to say that I hate any group of people when I don't. Its just ridiculous and I can't stress it enough how confused it makes me because READ MY WORDS... I DON'T HATE HOMOSEXUALS. And honestly, the liberal left are doing a wonderful job at promoting that, what seems to be ... a hate-charged stereotype towards me, ironically. All that said... I see what your saying and do keep that in mind...

I'm understanidng of what some homosexual people might wrongfully "SEE" me as. So, I see your point.

Calmador, I'm not exactly what you are trying to say - it sounds a bit conflicted.  You can feel about anything you want to feel and your Church can do what it wants.  But if you were to act in a way to hurt others, then yea, you would get called evil.  

But unfortunately many people that call themselves Christians going around trying to bully others, rewrite history, and destroy anyone that they perceive as different from them.  Look at how a few people that called themselves Christians sponsored things like Prop 8 - merely to dissolve the legal definition some marriages, which would deny the legal definition of some families and take away existing civil rights.  Even the US Supreme Court ruled that DOMA was designed to:

"DOMA's unusual deviation from the usual tradition of recognizing and accepting state definitions of marriage here operates to deprive same-sex couples of the benefits and responsibilities that come with the federal recognition of their marriages. This is strong evidence of a law having the purpose and effect of disapproval of that class. The avowed purpose and practical effect of the law here in question are to impose a disadvantage, a separate status and so a stigma upon all who enter into same-sex marriages made lawful by the unquestioned authority of the States."

They like to spin that it is and attack on 'freedom of religion’ but religions are always free in the USA to do what they want.  Some don't marry divorced people, some don't marry people of mixed race, no Church, Rabbit, Priest or similar is going to be forced to marry a gay couple.  Yet a few complain like they are and they go around trying to force their interpretation of religious code into the government.  If you do that, then yea, that is really hateful and you would get called bad things.  (Just like if anyone else was trying to destroy your family - I think you might get mad.)

Even today people are trying to say that the USA is a 'Christian Nation.'  I like to remind them that no, we are not, we were but on July 4th, 1776 we ceded from England and separated the Church from the Government.  The USA is a secular nation with freedom of and from religion.

I just pointed out that many of the people going around calling themselves ‘Christian’ act in a way very different from how Christ acted. I do hope you act  more like the second.