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enditall727 said:
Areym said:
The way I see the confrontation, based on everything that I have heard is that GZ was following Trayvon because GZ though he looked suspicious. Whether he was stereotyping Trayvon or not, is somewhat irrelevant and from the recent pictures you can find of Trayvon, he looked like a fucking thug so GZ wasn't too far off. He also appeared to have past problems with violence/weed/etc, I can't say how true it is but his pictures seem to validate his thug-like behaviour. Trayvon's father was apparently a member of a gang in his past, crips from what I have heard but I can't say how true that is.

Anyways, GZ confronts Trayvon, asking him about what he was doing, where was he headed and the likes. At some point, Trayvon attacks GZ and pins him to the ground. Trayvon then proceed to slam GZ head into the pavements so GZ activates the "stand your ground" law and uses his gun in self defense and that is the end of the story. There are pictures of GZ's head being wounded and with a broken nose, although I'm not sure what happened to that piece of evidence.

In my opinion, GZ did kill Trayvon obviously, but he did so in self defense. While GZ probably should not have confronted Trayvon openly, he did not begin a physical confrontation, it was all Trayvon. Trayvon did not need to die that day but his own actions caused his own death. I know Eminem said something that perfectly described Trayvon's downfall but I can't find it. All Trayvon had to do was speak in a rational manner, show GZ he had no intentions of committing any cry and walk away. I assume Trayvon was filled with both anger and fear of being followed but there would be no reason to attack GZ unless he was threatening him physically.

I think GZ will walk and who knows what will happen then. I like to think that people will not get up in arms about the verdict, that we will calm accept or appeal or whatever legal action can be taken if Tray's parent feel that there is some injustice.

Well you have to remember that anything that happened AFTER that night is irrelevant. So the thug thing is really irrelevant

Zimmerman didn't know his twitter or background so he had to go by what he saw that night

Here is a link to what Trayvon Martin had on the night he was killed --> http://cdn.mediatakeout.com/63599/mto-super-world-exclusive-we-ve-got-the-trayvon-martin-death-pics-the-poor-boy-was-gunned-down-in-cold-blood.html

I dont see how he looked like a thug that night. He said that he was cutting through houses and it made me think about myself and all the people that i know. We used to cut through houses all the fucking time lol

So in that earlier vid, it seemed like he was saying that he was pretty much just keeping an eye on him and then he got on the phone, Trayvon came up and asked "what's your problem" then Trayvon broke his nose and tried to kill Zimmerman

But what happened with all that other stuff though like him asking Zimmerman "why are you following me?" while he was still on the phone with that girl or whatever. 

And the thing about Trayvon creeping aroind the bushes or dark area surprising Zimmerman. idk this seems weird. I feel like something happened when they confronted eachother that we dont know. I still feel like Trayvon should've kept walking home though

Edit: i think i'm done

I will agree that zimmerman should have left it at that. There really was no need for him to follow him any further. It was also a stupid move on Trayvon's part to assault Zimmerman, assuming Trayvon is the one who started the PHYSICAL confrontation which is what I believe happened. Had any of them walked away from the situation, nobody would have died and neither deserved to die that night.

Also, I believe that picture is quite old.  If the media used this picture as often as his younger (white hoodie/ red hollister shirt) pictures:

things might be a bit more skewed. Some of the more recent pictures like this one show that Trayvon is not necesarily the hoodied-saint that he is being described. GZ could also be kinda racist, I don't know. It would seemslike he was being overly suspicious of Trayvon because he was black but i don't know.



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