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S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:


I think there were more than twelve great new franchises that would come out across the board. There were more great games in all than just IP's.

"Great" is reserved for the absolute best of the best for me. A game can still be excellent, but not quite great, in my view.


Well thats subjective, I'm stating objectively here where games were critically acclaimed and got excellent reviews. I used to ignore indy games because I was biased and I admit it, but they brought me back to Nintendo (and if Sega were around same thing) and reminded me of the fun I used to have with Nintendo. I don't care any longer than Nintendo doesn't make new IP's as long as they keep making games. I didnt buy the Wii, but the Wii U is on my radar because of it.

Flower, Unfinished Swan, Journey, Dead Nation, Braid, 3D Dot Heroes, Shadow Complex, Outland and many, many more. Took me back and gave me a greater appreciation for the styles of old instead of  just the evolution which is the spectacle of today.

Even critical acclaim and reviews are subjective opinions of said critics and reviewers though. But I'm glad there were so many great games for you.

Great just means a different thing to me.


Yes, but reviews are the aggregate, a science as to the general concensus by people with educated opinions on the subject. It's like how you have the same thing for sports, wine, movies and so on and so forth. If great only means great in your subjective opinion and theres nothing wrong with that, we all have it. I can find something great subjectively about all of the consoles, some more than others but the aggregate does not lie about a concensus. 

But even a concensus is just the average opinion. My point is just that there is no absolute objective measure of quality for games. 

I guess I was merely agreeing with your "that's your opinion" remark but adding that opinion is ultimately all we have when it comes to games quality, whether it be ours, the average critic's, ot the average consumer's.