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Soleron on 26 June 2013
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wartaal said:
Soleron said:
Fifaguy360 said:

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Yeah but it was fun because you had to work very hard to hone those skills. People loved it so much so that it was part of MLG for some time.

Same thing with Street Fighter.

There's way too much pandering to these pampered North American kids who are taught "everyone's a winner" BS so they have to dumb games down. People should work themselves to reach their highest potential instead of capping game mechanics.

I love MLG. I love game speedrunning. I loved Starcraft Brood War, the hardest and most competitive game ever made.

But I'd really rather a game's skill came from intelligence and strategy rather than mechanical aptitude. Normal sports already do the latter quite well. I've switched from Starcraft to LoL: lower mechanical skillcap, and yet more fun, exciting and still skill based games.

Fighting games make moves deliberately hard to do to slow players down from being perfect. I don't think that's right.


You switched Starcraft for LoL, there is your problem.

Please expand on this. Where is LoL flawed?

You can never balance a game around ppl who dont understand the game, or dont have the speed to execute sick moves/micro.

Balancing a game means deciding on an intended playstyle. Something may be balanced but totally unfun to do and hence needs removing. Wavedashing is this kind of thing.

what if they removed muta stacking, mineralwalking, reaver micro from sc : bw? 

They are all artifacts of the obtuse controls of BW. Unlimited control group selection and decent pathfinding would obsolete them. Essentially they just arbitrarily make the game out of reach of the average person while not being fun or adding strategic depth.

The 12-in-a-control-group limit was added to make it deliberately hard rather than any tech limitation. Do you really support that?