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TheLastStarFighter said:
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disolitude said:
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Most of the people who bought the Wii are very knowledgeable about their console. They also enjoyed it and bought a lot of games.

Nothing wrong with expanding on the Wii brand. As was said by VO, however, they should have called it Wii 2. People love sequels, and associate higher numbers with something better. This would have been the same idea as Apple's iPhone 1, 2, 3.. and so on. People would love to buy the new, better version of Wii called Wii 2.

Regardless, the biggest problems with Wii U are a lack of must-have software, poor marketing, and strong value in the PS360. A lot of people were still buying PS360 and they still have great games coming out, and are cheaper.

Wii U needs a new marketing campaign that promotes it as a high-tech innovative new product and some great new games. The fall lineup should help, as should the killing off of PS360 with the arrival of the more expensive successors.

You really think that the majoity of Wii purchases were made by knowledgable gamers? I'm not saying that there aren't some, but if Wii didn't appeal to the casuals, party folks and people who saw Wii Sports and Wii Fit as games of choice...I see Wii selling a lot less than PS3 and 360 today. They'd lose half of the Wii sales easily without the blue ocean...

Your perception is shared by many hardcore gamers but isn't reality.  The vast majority of Wii buyers weren't grandparents or stay-at-home moms playing Wii bowling or weighing themselves.  The single largest chunk of Wii buyers were the mainstream.  They were families, adults, children, people who like new things.  The people that made it a massive seller are people who saw the motion controls, like Nintendo franchises, wanted something new and the price was right.  These are people that in the past probably bought mainstream hits like GTA, probably bought Guitar Hero, obviously bought Wii Sports and many probably love COD right now.  They are not tech heads, but they know what a Wii is.  They're not idiots.  And they did buy upwards of 10 games per console, not the Wii Sports and Fit and that's it that detractors like to say.

The problem is that Nintendo hasn't given this mainstream a reason to buy Wii U.  Some may not be fully aware that Wii U is actually Wii 2.  But moreso is the problem that they don't care.  Nothing about Wii U has been exciting enough to make them want it yet.  The advertising was bad and the "coolest" exclusive was Zombie U.  They may also have bought a PS360 when the price came down and they picked up an HDTV, relegating the Wii brand to second place in the home.  Wii U needs games and promotion that tell the mass market it's worth their time.


i think software sales says otherwise

Which software sales?

the WIi series was the most popular series bar none on that system. Who do you think that appeals to the most? Mario Kart Wii did real well, but IMHO a part of its massive success because it was easier to get into than the prior ones. ANd just about every other Ninty franchise sold the usualy (Zelda, 3d Mario)

3rd party games, which were the best selling ones? your dance and your music games, agan who does that appeal to the most?

All im saying is look at what sells on HDs in contrast to what sells on WIi, there is a big difference.

Not really.  Wii SPorts was popular and it appealed to everyone, including me and every other core gamer I know when it debuted.  After that, Mariokart and NSMBU were the biggest titles, and they are mainstream gamer titles.  They sold 30 million.  30.  The biggest chunk of gamers on the system are gamers.  Games like Galaxy, Twilight Princess and Brawl did massive numbers too.  Far better than the Uncharteds or Metal Gears of the world.

No, your perception is flawed.  The big titles of the gen are WiiSPorts, WiiFit, NSMB, MK, COD and GTA.  These are the mass market titles.  After that the large "Core" titles like MarioG, Zelda, Halo, SSB and GT did very well.  But the core titles did as well or better on Wii as on other systems.  Beyond these titles you get into FIFA or Just Dance as big sellers, but I would hardly call FIFA a core title.

well for one those games released on a system that had a much higher install base, your perception doesnt take into account the numerous games that did WORST on WIi, COD, Tomb Raider, Prince of Persia, Rayman, both Star Wars FU games etc. How do you explain those, shouldnt they have done better on Wii? If what you say is true about core gamers making up most of WII audience, why did alot of core games do worst on that system?