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Player1x3 on 21 June 2013
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Munkeh111 said:
Player1x3 said:
Munkeh111 said:

I assumed that the battle he was referencing was the one at the University, where the hunters clearly shot first. I am not sure there was actually a case where Joel and Ellie were the ones who started the fight, unless they were clearly enemies

If they hadnt shot first, I still think they would clash in violence. It always did. I was talking about after she got locked up in David's cell. He was clearly nice to her, but she was quite agressive towards him. If she acted differently theres no telling how things would have turned out

There was no way they were going to let them go. They let Ellie go, but they tracked her to get Joel. She was so fiercely loyal to Joel that she was not going to work with them while they were going to kill/eat him.

I don't think we are meant to think of Joel and Ellie as the "goodies." It is all grey

Joel most certanly isnt a goodie. We find that out in the first hour of the game. Ellie is more complicated