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HoloDust on 21 June 2013
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Michael-5 said:

1) Yea, but Microsoft also only say the One is 8-10x as powerful as the 360. I wouldn't go off what I heard in a show, I mean the title of this thread....

Pretty much everyone in this thread except CGI, and I guess you? believe it's around 10x. Read some of the comments between Pemalite and myself, 15x is way too high.

2) LOL well it's only fair to compare the most powerful systems of the gen. XB1 was the powerhouse last gen, PS3 is this gen, and PS4 will be next. If you compared PS3 to PS2 graphics, then the jump is 20x (since XB1 is 2x as powerful as PS2). So in the read world, since most people played PS2's, the jump from 6th -> 7th gen was twice as large, in half the time period.

Also I find it interesting how graphics will improve next gen. I'm looking very forward to flat textures disappearing , and better AI.

4) People extrapolated what I said, I only said that not everything in PS4 improved by 10x, GPU speed is only 3x, but this basically means nothing, since like Pemalite and you say, you don't know the number of shaders. Still, people took it as an offensive against the PS4, but it really wasn't. A lot of PS4 supporters are very defensive of their product.

Yup, I think this whole comparision between PS3/PS4 sprouted from nothing LOL. Wait, it sprouted from this comment, which was right in the end.

Michael-5 said:
superchunk said:
X360 * 2.5 = WiiU * 5 = Xbone * 1.5 = PS4

That's pretty much how I see it based on all the various specs. Of course if Xbone is downclocked... it might change a little.

In the end I don't think it will matter.

WiiU may get ignored just for being Nintendo and/or lack of DRM.
PS4/XB1 will have essentially identical 3rd party and that's over 90% of their games anyone cares about. WiiU's 3rd party ports will be close enough to not matter as well. Same game lower res/AA/etc.

XBone is about as powerful as PS4, and WiiU isn't that much more powerful then current gen consoles. Also PS4 is 9x more powerful then PS3, so if anything

X360 * 1.2 = PS3 * 1.4 = WiiU * 5.5 = XBOne * 1.15 = PS4.

I clearly underballed WiiU, more then anything, yet no one defends the WiiU. Shows you the difference between PS4 fans (blood thirsty animals) to WiiU fans.

P.S. not calling anyone a fanboy, you can love both the PS4/WiiU, but  I just find it funny that people who love the PS4 defend it so heavily over nothing, but WiiU gets people attacking it, like Captain_Tom saying KZ2 looks better then any WiiU game, and no one, but me defends it.

Sad sad times where there is so much Hate and misinformed people towards the WiiU

1) Yeah, it seems MS can't make up their minds

2) LOL, well if you look at it that way, Wii sold most in 7th gen, so jump from 7th to 8th is completely insane ;)

4) I think the point of responses was more for you to realize how clock speed is completely irrelevant without knowing other parameters...if it makes any difference, I have no problem saying PS3 was pretty bad product, 360 was great (except for RRoD) and PS4 seems to be pretty good.

As for that original comparison, I'd say it's more or less accurate - PS4 is more than 1.15x XOne though, depending on how much those MOVE engines are making XOne's GPU to perform closer to full blown 7790 (which unfortunately it is not), I'd say it's between 1.4x-1.6x...though, PS4's GPU has some great enhancements, so it may be even more. Also, WiiU is still enigma (160 or 320 shaders), it can be lower than what you put, but also slightly higher.