What Entry Level RWD Sports car should I get?

[Michael-5]

TheLastStarFighter said:

Michael-5 said:

Oh yes, I've looked up statistics on American cars too, read JD Power on reliability reports, and read anohter book called lemonaide which specifically talks about maintenance issues of cars. American cars supposedly get on average 120,000 miles (200,000km), while Japanese cars typically last 200,000 miles (330,000km) from what I've read.

Yes, I know reliability depends on models, for instance Benz SUV's suck, but sedans are good. Anyway I doubt that modern Fords are as good as modern Honda's/Toyota's. A friend has a 2009 Fusion AND a 2007 Accord, and the Fusion with less milage already has more problems. If you look at consumer reports, American cars are still pretty far behind the Japanese. Ford is ok, I did say that, but Crysler are still just as bad as they've always been, and Chevy is only a little better.

The reason I mention cases I know in real life, is because they are relfective of consumer reports. When Lemonaide for instance gives an average score, that means that around 200km that component (engine, transmission, etc) will start to give problems. Most American cars, even Ford, still typically return average values, where Japanese deliver Good-Excellent scores. BMW is somewhere inbetween with excellent engines/tranny's and average accessory's.

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On topic, good point about the new Mustang! The new one looks amazing via concept photos. I think I will consider that now, like I said I'm not particularly against Ford, I think they are OK. LOL, but not Dodge, never Dodge, I know too many horror story's of control arms just breaking, and tires falling off at speed. A friend of mine has a 2012 Crysler 300, and already big problems, I don't know why you defend a company like this.

I really like the BMW 335 too, I might just get a 2013 model, it would look old, but the 3 coupe is a great car. I'm not too interested in the 2/4 with electric steering, and rumored to come in auto only. Lexus and the SL are auto only, and the Hyndai Genesis Coupe is over-priced IMO, and too small in the back (yes a BRZ is bigger in the back).

You have given me, a very good alternate The new Mustang looks sweet.

If the 2015 looks anything like that render you posted, it will bolt to the top of my list for my next car!  I'm not a big fan of the current retro styling, but that thouroughly modern look is outstanding.  I'm also hoping for a turbo 6, but for now rumors are stronger for a turbo 4 and natural 6 and 8's.

I forgot you wanted a manual.  So it looks like 335, BRX, and poosibly Next-gen Mustang are great options for smallish, nimble sports cars.  The back of the Genesis is seriously smaller than the Subaru?

I have a subscription to Car & Driver, and judging from the way the new Fusion looks like, I'm pretty sure the new Mustang will look close to the image above. I know Ford wants to make their car appeal to foreign markets more, so they are shifting from the nasty Retro Styling, and actually they are shifting to Turbo 4's and Turbo 6's. .

Yes the back of a Genesis Coupe is smaller then the BRZ's back. The BRZ's back is even bigger then a Camaro's back, but Ford and BMW are the biggest. I think the BRZ is so big inside, and so small on the outside because it's a dedicated platform. In the Genesis Coupe, they used the larger sedan plaform, so the car is bigger and heavier then it should be. The BRZ was designed from the ground up to be a 4 seater coupe, nothing more.

Yea, it's looking like a toss up between the BRZ, 335i, and Mustang. If I get a BRZ, I'll get an STI, the 200hp model is pretty slow in a straight line. I'll have to wait on some consumer reports for mustang though, usually major changes like this cause a lot of problems in early models. However the 335i will be expensive to fix.

Realistically I'll get a used BRZ STI, or a 335i. I'd have to buy that Mustang new if I wanted it, and new cars are expensive.