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g911turbo said:
I have to agree with some people on here. It seems like you need to really define what you are looking for, because its seems like you're comparing cars across the spectrum. I currently own my second BMW now... hard to look back. They are really fun to drive and come with ZERO (including oil changes) maintenance for 50K or 4 years. After driving my families domestics, they just don't put the same grin on my face.

Also, how long do you plan to keep the car? Turbo cars will have more long term repair costs, but if you plan to sell in 3 years or lease one, that might be irrelevant.

I plan to keep the car as long as possible. Even BMW is removing manual transmissions from their lineup, and I just want this as a daily driver. When I have more money I'll get a nicer, more expensive, fancy fancy sports car, and use this for back and forth to work.

Price range, ~30k

What I'm looking for: fun to drive manual, probably going to need 4 seats so I can use 2 as baby seats just in case I go down that route.



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