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Demensha said:
as an owner of 3 different corvettes, rx-7, rx-8, genesis coupe 6cyl, scion fr-s, multiple Camaros(3rd gen), 71 el Camino, and soon to be the 7th gen Corvette. If you are looking for a bad ass real wheel car as an entry level I would have to ask what you consider an entry level? are you looking for straight up 0-60? 1/4 mile? horsepower bragging rights? or a mixture of all around specs?

Either way I will give my opinions. the Subaru and scion fr-s twins are crap cars and, anyone saying otherwise are fools to.

the boxter is also crap for the price and expensive to fix as are the BMW's

out of your options I would say your best bet is the over weight STI, while it has decent HP its an AWD so burnouts are more difficult to achieve than in typical RWD cars.

After saying that, I would suggest none of those cars. The Mazda rx-7 is a car you can pick up as a shell for under 5grand and build up custom paint job, rebuilt motor, new single turbo conversion kit with all new intercooler and accessories. Slap a nice set of rims and suspension and whatever type of audio system you are into and you have a blazing fast, sexy, and awesome drifter/RWD car. Plus the car would basically be 100% custom to your desires so there is always that, or you can always look for an rx-7 already done up.

However, that being said, the car you left out that I highly recommend is the C6 generation corvette. you can find the current gen (2006) Z06 model car for 35-40k, and that gets you one of the best cars on the road under 150k at 505hp and 0-60 times at 3.7seconds; however, with traction control on you will be able to tame that beast until you are good and ready to turn it off ;).
If that's to expensive you can step down to the standard vette or in a few years the Grand Sport edition which comes with the suspension, brakes, and wide body kit as the Z06. The ZHZ edition corvette comes with the 2lt package 436hp and 0-60 comes in under 4.5 seconds. I have seen them currently go for under 27grand.

whatever you choose do not get that Subaru scion twin they are garbage I sued Toyota and won over that shitty product. Do yourself a favor and get the corvette its the best bang for the buck. The best part about the vette or the rx-7 they are both 2 seats, perfect room for yourself and your "friend" you want to bring back to your place ;).
Either way buying whatever car you choose should be a fun experience, and I hope you end up with a good purchase that you wont regret at the first red light you roll up to and lose :(.

I'm looking for a car while handles well, something that's fun to drive. For instance I hated Corvettes because while they are on a good platformance and fun to drive on the track, they felt like crap at city speeds. I've always liked BMW's, and the Scion seems like a poor mans BMW.

I don't need anything too fast, I'm happy with a 0-100km in the 5-6s range, but what I want to something fun, which corners well, and something reliable with a good looking interior. No hard plastics.

I also want something reliable, so no Corvettes, lol. I drove one with only 2,000km and already the seat was broken. Yes they are fast, but i feel driving them feels no different then an Impala. If I went chevy I would go Caddy CTS-V, it's nice inside, sounds great, easy to slide but it's still a peice of crap that's going to break down.

RX-7 is a nice car, I'll admit, but they are old, I want something a bit nicer. Also those rotary engines cost a lot to fix, I have a friend with an RX-7, with a turbo, and it pushes something like 300hp or something. Pretty fast, but he says it's a lot to maintain. If I went for an old car I would look at the Toyota Supra, it's also easy to mod, and looks a lot better, plus 4 seats.

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I think you and I have different tastes in cars. I don't need a car that goes 0-100km in 4s or less, or a 500hp Nissan. I live in a big city, when the heck am I going to use all that power? I don't drag race, lol, I think that's for people with....nvm

I drove the BRZ, and well all the cars you mentioned, but I loved the BRZ the most because it was the most nimble. It's funny what you and I love/hate are exact opposites. I just want a lightweight car, with a decent pick up, good looks, and something that's dependable. At 2,800lb (600 less then a Nissan 370Z, and I believe 200lb less then a Corvette), with 250hp in the STI model, with a 0-100km in 5.5s or so, and the Toyota badge, the BRZ fits all that.

My only complaint with the BRZ is interior quality, a BMW 335i just looks so much better inside, but it's a metal top covertible, which takes away from the feel of the drive.



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