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Machiavellian on 19 June 2013
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Shinobi-san said:
Machiavellian said:
Shinobi-san said:
Well we don't have to argue about this anymore. It doesn't seem like "cloud" is going to be a buzzword MS will be using to sell the Xbone anymore.

And it just shows that this whole cloud talk was almost complete bullshit. ( i say almost because there are advantages, just not the way they were explaining it)

To be honest, you might just be in a discussion that is over your head.  Having an opinion on something is one thing, understanding the thing you have an opinion on is something totally different.  The scope of MS Azure and Orleans is way above a lot of people witnin this thread but I do agree that the proof will be in the works we see within the coming years not something you will see day one.  Some of the advantages will be underthe hood where its not immediate like graphics.

I understand cloud and I understand its depth. I work in BI IT. We have been for the most part, MS's whole point of getting into Cloud if im not mistaken. MS has moved agressively over the past few years into enterprise solutions taking out all the other major players like IBM, Oracle etc. Thats why I was asking Disolitude to clear up the things he was saying which doesnt make sense when there are multiple implementations and offerings of cloud services.

When MS started moving all its services as SaaS solutions who do you think are the first people to try that out and understand the repurcussions of that technology?

My only issue with what MS was saying was that it will dynamically enhance the gameplay in realtime. Disolitude claims the same in some of hes posts which to me shows a complete lack of understanding on the subject. Using the cloud to generate a AI algorithm asycronously is a whole other thing. Dynamically adjusting the AI in realtime, adding more object onto the screen and crap like that has not been implemented ANYWHERE as of today. This is what MS was claiming. And i take major issue with that. But feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

HInt: I'm not

Ok, I can agree 100% with what you said.  MS did do some hyperbole with what they can do today compared to what they may be able to do tomorrow.  Today, they need developers and creative people to find ways to take advantage of what Azure can do and their Orleans platform.  Engineers do not have the ability to see all of the advantages, instead they make stuff and hope the content creators can do things with it they have not thought about.

Personally, I have removed myself from MS promises to just concentrating on the actual technology.  I believe MS is making a serious bold move in giving developers Azure as a free resource and I am interested to see how it will be leveraged.