How big can PS4 be in Japan?

[Otakumegane]

Max King of the Wild said:

Otakumegane said:

I'm not quite sure if you understood what I said.

I said Wii caused an abnormal growth in total amount of consoles sold. But in Japan, console sales shrunk compared to last gen even with the Wii. If the Wii hadn't existed, the total number of consoles sold in Japan would be even less than what we see now and it has already shrunken from the 6th gen.

That coupled with a massive shift in major Japanese franchises toward handhelds last gen (DQ, AC, etc.) that's continuing throughout the 8th gen (SMT and a couple more that I'm forgetting) means that there's less incentive to buy a console in Japan.

Those are huge assumptions you make concerning the existence of the Wii on the Japanese market. Anyway, If the Wii didn't exist at all then only 155mil consoles would be sold this gen Ps3+360...  145 outside of Japan. Others have grown not because of 360, ps3, or gaming in general becoming more popular but because the amount of markets the systems are offered has grown.

So you're saying that the Wii didn't make the console market seem artificially larger in Japan and that the shrinking of the console market is attributed directly to the failures of the PS3?