JazzB1987 said:
chapset said:
JazzB1987 said:
Seriously GTA is so huge releasing on WiiU will 100% make a profit even if its just 1 dollar. And if its just 1 dollar then it was worth it because well you earned 1 dollar plus you established your IP.
Establishing your IP is the most important thing to do but must third party devs/publishers are to stupid and greedy to see it. They act like money is the only thing. Well you need to establish yourselves before you can expect money duh.
Not having GTA5 on WiiU would be a really stupid decision especially because the gamepad can offer alot of neat things
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bad logic, you waste time that could be used for making much more money, why waste months on a wii U version that's gonna sell 250k when you could be making an other game
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Bad logic? Your logic is bad lol. You have the same world view as investors..... When you make 1 dollar profit and ESPECIALLY when you are establishing your IP on a platform (which generates more money than not doing so) is not wasting time.
And when you look at the PC ports of Rockstar games you should know that having perfect ports is not what they aim for so a small team of devs should do it within a short period of time.
Plus the people with the IDEA of a new game and artists etc are not needed to make a port. You just hand over the work to a few coders and thats it. So making a port =/= halting development of a new games.
And as I said establishing product to increase the potential userbase for future games is important NOT making money right now. Money comes later when you are already established. As "out of touch with reality" developers you also seem to think short term profit is everything when instead long term profit is the key to success. (btw the short term profit problem is destroying every type of business/company right not just gaming companies)
Just look at COD3 it sold almost identical on Wii as it did on 360 and better on Wii as it did on PS3. Then they abandoned Wii with ModernWarfare because they were dumb just to come back 2 years later with a REFLEX EDITION port. That was to late the COD BOOOM happened with modern warfare and thats why COD is not selling on Wii that well not because Wii owners dont like it but instead they moved on and bought 360s etc to buy it or they moved on to play other games on Wii because Activision was to stupid to bring the game to the Wii. Plus Reflex Edition was a port of an already OLD game.
The COD sales went from 2.16million with COD3 (in 2006 when Wii was still new) to only 1.47 million with MW:Reflex in 2009! Activision killed it's Wii usersbase.
If they want Wii owners to appreciate their game and to generate profit they need to work and accept short term loss because thats what companies usually do when they want long term profit. (look at Xbox and PS3 launch. MS and Sony understand that)
They need to bring out several games without dropping Wii again because 1 game doesnt sell well. Every single game in a series that does not come to Wii or now WiiU damages the IP on that system nothing else and you have to start from scratch in establishing it because the users lose confidence. I mean would you buy a version of COD when you don't know if it will ever have a big community? or if the next installment is coming? and if it will what if it comes 2 years later again? NO you would rather buy another version where you are sure it will happen.
Black Ops on PS3 sold twice as good as it sold on WiiU so how exactly is WiiU not good for that kind of game? I mean just look at the facts.
1. WiiU version lacks some features 2.WiiU version has almost no community because the console userbase is so small and yet the PS3 version only sold 2.2x better (console : games sold ratio) than the WiiU version. In total numbers the PS3 COD sales destroy the WiiU COD sales but only because there is 22x more PS3s than there is WiiUs.
Third party is the only reason why third party is not successful on Nintendo platforms. And every big game like GTA not coming to the system makes it harder for every third party developer not only the one making the game to establish oneself. EA is the reasony Activision has problems and Activision is the reason why Ubisoft has problem etc. They only think about themselves and about short term profit. Thats the most stupid thing you could do.....
And BTW even if Rockstar made 10 WiiU ports without profit they should keep doing it because 1. they can afford it and 2. the userbase is increasing every time (thats the most important thing!)
When they stop porting a single game over the userbase gets a hit.
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Take two has been losing money for the past few years, it's only now that they are profiting, so they probably more focused in staying profitable than anything else. They are not in the position to just release games on a platform that as a low return on investement like the wii U
