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Just talked to my friend with 190k gamer score he's holding out on xbox1 for now, he owns 3 360's his family's combined gscore is over 500k

why not? being able to trade games and having to have a internet connection. I feel MS is going to kill the attach rate for its console and mediocre games wont sell at all.

I know for myself I'll rent and buy on the ps3 and only get aaa title on the xbox1 a game I'm willing to keep forever.

If you don't think guys like that wont have an effect on the xbox1 your crazy. PS3 will win next gen and attach rates will be what 360 had this gen. Wake up MS