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omgwtfbbq said:
CrazzyMan said:
omgwtfbbq said:
CrazzyMan said:

8 month, yeah 2,5mln. comparing to ~115 mln. ps2 sold is really a lot, lol.
http://vgchartz.com/worldcons.php?date=36770&sort=0
we speak about worldwide sales, not just japan.

it`s interesting comparison, it appears that PS3 costs twice more, then ps2.

complains about price are stupid.
dvd cost 25$ and blu-ray rom 125$, for 100$ you get:
a) moovies in Full HD 1080p.
b) you get silent console, 16x DVD is really noisy.
c) you get a lot of space, all games on 1BD - comfort.

for another 100$ you get:
a) really god quality, console may work next 5 years without problems.
b) wi-fi.
c) +40GB.
d) some amazing 3rd party exclusives and japan developers support.
e) free online

you're the one who brought up Japan by comparing PS3's worldwide sales to PS2's japan only sales (which were about the same) and saying that the PS3 is selling as well as the PS2 did at launch, which is obviously false.

I don't know why you are bringing up price or what you get out of it (or, comparing 2.5mil to 115mil, which doesn't make sense. It clearly says Japan sales were 2.5 mil which are >10% of Lifetime PS2 sales in Japan). Sometimes I think you just randomly type out sentences without even thinking

You didn't actually say anything in response to the fact that the PS3 is only barely performing as well worldwide as the PS2 did in the smallest of the three big region, and in the first six months was outperformed 2.5:1 in Japan by it's predecessor. I think we can stop with the "Sony always sells slowly" myth and hopefully as well the "PS3 is tracking like the PS2" myth.

1) ps3 didn`t start worldwide too. Only in Japan + USA. No europe and other regions.
2) yeah, probably the price has nothing to do with that... =))
like 300$ vs 600$, yeah, not big deal.
Many people complain about price, but when it comes to sales, yeah, price doesn`t matter, only sold consoles matters.

 

1) really? Then what's that pile of PS3's doing at my local Myer? I guess someone transported me to USA while I wasn't looking? Oh wait, no I'm still in Australia, and last I looked, PS3's were available here. I haven't been to Europe recently but from what I heard you could buy PS3's there. Looks like PS3 has been released in all three major regions, unlike the PS2, which after 6 months was only released in Japan (but had still sold as many in a 6 month period). And since you were comparngPS2 after 6 months and PS3 after six months, then it's fair to mention that the PS2 was only available in Japan at the time.

2) Yes. Exactly. Sony priced themelves out of this generation. Price does matter and Sony will sell less consoles because they arrogantly thought people would pay any money to play the PS3. Well it's too late to go back and the PS3 is set up to fail. The PS3 will always be the most expensive console with the smallest userbase. Third party publishers don't care how much a console costs, they care how many copies of a game they are going to sell.

When you are comparing the number of sold consoles, then only the number of sold consoles matter. That was the original discussion, wasn't it? You can bring in all these reasons to justify why the PS3 is selling like crap, and of course there are reasons. But you can't seem to bring yourself to actually admit that it's selling like crap. And it is.

 

1) NO worldwide START.  It`s only 2 month, since ps3 is selling worldwide. 4 Month was selling ONLY in japan+usa. It`s fair to mention, that ps3 for 4 month was available only in japan+usa.

2) Sony with 600$ sold more consoles, then x360 with price 400$, since 6 month after each console`s launch. Even, if after 2-3 years ps3 will still cost 350$ and x360 250$, PS3 still will be a better value for money to invest in.

http://vgchartz.com/worldcons.php?date=37316&sort=0 

To follow PS2 success, ps3 during this year must sell + 7 mln. ps3, and in another + 18 mln.

I don`t imagine, how x360 will sell another 18 mln. in this year. Admit, that x360 is selling like a crap, and ps3 is still have chances to follow ps2 success.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far