RolStoppable said:
teigaga said:
1)Not strictly true, especially not for nintendo fans. Other than being called a fad (which in itself implies it has a strong USP, just not one with legs) the wii recieved ton of good coverage up until 2008/9 when the titles started to die down and their E3s were just filled with wii music and other weak showings. The difference then is that the wii captured the casual audience and they kept it going even when core titles became few and far between. The complaints this time are coming from core nintendo fans, the same ones you said they need to cater to because the casuals have clearly vacated the building.
2) I am not grasping at straws there is a very simple logic I am addressing. High sales does not equate to system sellers, people use media on 360 more than they play games, but is the media functionality the reason they bought the system in the first place? Zombi U only sold 450k but I know people who wouldn't have bought the Wii U if that title wasn't on it. What you are trying to dictate to everyone else is that there is no value in a diverse portfolio. By your same logic of simply assessing software sales and not the context, you would assume that a New Super Mario bros U is a superior launch title compared to a full fledged 3D title Mario or a brand new Zelda, simply because the wii version sold 22m and Mario galaxy and Zelda on wii sold considerably less.
Also my post on the claim that it is a 3DS title, is evidence that I do not see in black and white. I obviously don't know whether thats actually the case or but I do have brain and I'm willing to use it.
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1) Core Nintendo fans have complained since 2006 too. About how Nintendo has sold out to casuals and all that stuff. It's nothing new. The underlying wish is that they want to be respected by Sony and Microsoft fans or something like that. The usual Nintendo games and casual stuff (whatever people think that is) obviously don't cut it. Not to mention that there are core Nintendo fans who grew up with the N64/GC and scoff at 2D gameplay. Or those who think that such games are cheap and easy to make.
2) Great that you know people that have bought a Wii U for ZombiU. Unfortunately, the plural of anecdote isn't data. What I am trying to get in your head is that a game that can sell 5m units has a higher probability to sell hardware than a game that can sell only 2m units. And yes, NSMBU is a superior launch title compared to your examples, because Super Mario Bros. (with the exception of SMB2) has always sold significantly more than those.
Tell me what Retro's game should have been. Genre, how it controls and other details.
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Something ambitious that would appeal to a demographic not already swooned by Super Mario World 3D.
