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omgwtfbbq said:
NJ5 said:
marc said:
omgwtfbbq said:

a.l.e.x59 said:
I don't care what any of you say. You could say that the Xbox 360 could be better than the Playstation 3 in any department, except for one thing. Blu-Ray is far superior than HD-DVD. You will always get a finer picture with Blu-Ray, and that's a fact! By the way, since Sony wanted their Playstation 3 to be the best gaming console ever, why couldn't they have looked at the Xbox 360 specifications, and make sure that the Playstation 3 specifications were stronger in every single department?

I don't know where you et your "facts" from.

Blu-Ray and HD-DVD both use the exact same codec. The picture quality is almost identical. There is much debate over which has better picture quality but there are no "facts" saying blu-ray or HD-DVD have higher picture quality.

 


I do believe you are correct. As I understand it, they do indeed use the same codec so in terms of movies, neither has any kind of advantage unless the BR uses higher bitrates. This is of course possible given the roomier discs but as far as I know, they use the same settings. So if someone does see a better picture, it is not because of the format. It is probably because of the player itself.

Oh also, back then I remember that they did look at the 360 specs but Sony had already selected the hardware they were going to use in the PS3 before the 360 specs were finalized. They also believed that their cell processors would be superior but they had a lot of trouble manufacturing them and I believe they had to scale back a bit on them. Lastly, as it turns out, the cell processor really wasnt that great of a engineering leap.

I think the Cell is great, I'm just not sure it's great for games programming...

The Cell really is nothing special. It's an interesting idea, it's definitely new. It's basically taking the idea of a GPU and making it more general purpose.

A GPU is incredibly good at paralell processing (much better than the Cell), and will usually be doing more work at one time than the Cell. However it is incredibly specialised at one thing.

Cell is just taking that idea and making it slightly more general purpose. Which means those tasks that are "embarrasingly paralell" will work well. Because of in-order execution on the main processor and Cell being completely useless at anything not paralellisable, you'll see its performance suffer at things such as AI.

In general as things get more specialised, they get more powerful. Cell is just kind of a middle ground between a CPU and a GPU.

 


I wonder what's the current PPE vs SPE usage factor in current PS3 titles... I bet they use the PPE as much as they can and throw the tasks which are the easiest to program to the SPEs...

If anyone ever finds any article/interview containing comments on that, please post it here. 



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