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disolitude said:
DucksUnlimited said:

I suppose my next question is where are you getting that 4gb number from?

That's pure speculation at this point. That being said, I guess it just varies from person to person. Requiring an internet connection is more of a turnoff to some people than not being able to play on a friend's console, particularly with it being done in the restrictive manner MS has planned. And you're a fine example of the opposite being true as well. Personally, I'm not really affected much by either.

And yes, actually. I believe that's how the streaming is supposed to work. i didn't think it sounded all that amazing either, but it's essentially what the Wii U's gamepad does, and I've heard a lot of people talk about what a fantastic feature it is on that console.

4 gb was a number which this forum along with a few others reported that Killzone PS4 was using when being developed. Now im aware that 4 gb wasnt used for video memory alone but there may come a time in 5 years when games do use that much video memory.

The GPU in the PS4 is no joke and current gen games on PC are a testament that you will need a fast hard drive to have an enjoyable experience. Take something like Crysis 2 or 3 on the PC and install it on a 5400rpm hard drive, then launch it on high settings...you will wait up to a minute for loading. Now take that time and double it, and you will approximately get how long it will take for PS4 bluray to load that same level.

In terms of DRM, I think internet activation + disk verification solves our worries. Like if Microsoft or Sony said you can play without disk anywhere where you log in with your ID for 24 hours without internet, but if you want to play longer and still have no internet, you need to pop the disk back in. Id be perfectly ok with that...

That's fine.

I don't see how it's absolutely set in stone that users who didn't want to install a game are absolutely not allowed to wait 2 minutes, but that's not to say you're wrong either. We just don't know, which was my original point.

How would that prevent used games though? if I'm understanding you correctly, you could sell your game to a friend, give them temporary access to your account, and then after 24 hours they just pop the disc in and play permanently, right?