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drkohler on 07 June 2013
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ethomaz said:
Shinobi-san said:
drkohler said:
Shinobi-san said:
Seems right to me...

People dont seem to realise how cheap AMD's solutions are.

People don't seem to realise how expensive brand new, complex chips are in the first batches. Those BOM are laughable at best, but since it is Pachter, we knew that before already.


Brand new? Complex? What?

I'm with you Shinobi-san... AMD chips are cheaper but MS is having some trouble with the additional units and cache put into the chip... MS make the chip complex.

The PS4 chip instead is a standard AMD chepear APU with a more powerful GPU.

There is NOTHING standard in either Sony's nor MS's APU. The most complex APUs AMD is currently STARTING to mass market are quadcore Jaguars with a gpu. Compare that to:

MS  two Jaguar units, "standard" northbridge, 4 DMA controllers (we used to call it so, now they are called "Data Move Engines" because it sounds so much nicer), huge esram chache, sound hardware, Kinect2 hardware, gpu (+secret stuff?)

Sony: two Jaguar units, "enhanced" northbridge, sound chip, compander chip, ARM processor(?), gpu (+secret stuff?)

None of these complex chips have ever been tested in the field. If you think you can get this stuff cheap right from the start, you have some serious research to do.