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ethomaz said:

walsufnir said:

Basing on an assumption of ethomaz... is... haha, no, I like him, too, but the numbers are gambled, really.

Costs highly depend on contracts and stuff, we will never really know the truth. Also the high failure rate has been clear to everyone who was involved in the project, that's for sure. If additional costs have to be paid by the customer is also a decision made by the console-manufacturer.

Even if 100% of the ships are GOOD the Xbone's APU is more expensive than PS4's APU... you can produce more chips for PS4 in a wafer than Xbone... it is 5 billion transistors vs 3 billion transistors.

There are no magical process that can change that... big chips are more expensives than small one... no matter what contract you do or anything else.

The Xbone's APU is 40% bigger than PS4's APU in transistors... MS can make a more dense chip (small transistors and more close to each other) but there a limit for that... at the end the PS4's APU will be small and cheaper.

My prediction...

PS4's APU: 250mm²
Xbone's APU: 410mm²


I never doubted it! But the ratios from yours were gambled but there is nothing wrong with that - people understood what you tried to say. But it is just too easy to judge this from our position how much more expensive the Bone-chip is because for this we would need further details we will never get :)