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StarcraftManiac said: Well, actually they have. Nes/Snes. FF 1 till 6 were on Nes(part 1-3) and Snes (part 4-6)... Then it went to Sony so it actually aint no second party game. Also, im guessing Kingdom hearts is coming to Wii, why u asking?! -Square-enix and Nintendo have (once again) a good relation. Result: FF: 3, FF: 12, DQ: 9, DQ: Monster joker. Wii is also selling quite good now, result: -Dragon quest: Masked queen & ToM... -FF: Chrystal bearers (nintendo exclusive ff spin-off). And: DISNEY has opened an exclusive Nintendogame development studio. And nintendo funded SQ-E to open a new studio (dont know the name exactely) Result: Mario hoops 3 on 3 basketball.

You miss what I have said. FF 1-6 were ported to the PS line and other than FFXI which was an MMO from the get go when has a FF been ported off of a PS console to another one? Erik you are right but second party is used to describe a title/dev relationship. If you want to ignore second party as a description you might as well do away with first and third party and start referring to them as in-house or independent. MGS 2 made an apperance on the xbox but notice how the game had a different titled and the content was touted as it being different. MGS2 as it stood, could not have been ported and konami could have been sued. Yes they own the rights but "MGS2 Sons of Liberty" was contracted for the PS2 only while they were able to get away with releasing "MGS2 Substance" This is sort of like how disney, due to wording in contract, was able to say that Toy Story 2 did not go up for Pixars obligation to disney. Research it and if you can prove me wrong by all means do so. But while I was in school for computer animation this was brought up in me game design class and I tried to research this for better understanding. This is the type of contracts and behavior that freelancers were warned about. Name the FF, MGS, KH and tales in name that were ported over. No alterations just the same game and then come back and tell me.