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Machiavellian on 30 May 2013
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Dr.Grass said:
Machiavellian said:
Dr.Grass said:
Machiavellian said:

AThe eurogamer has no more clue about what can be archived on cloud compute then the average joe on the street.  

 


(gonna have to to this again)

Dude. Really.


Yes dude they speculate.  The author is neither a developer or engineer.  They speculate because they cannot develop code themselves and they do not have a way to test what is possible or not.  Just like any technology you put it in the hands of the builder and let them find creative ways to use it.  It's interesting people put up articles like they are gospel from someone who has no more technical knowledge on the subject then yourself.  Personally I would listen to actual developers who are using such techniques.  I want to here from developers like avalanche, Bethesda, Rockstar and others who may be able to leverage this tech and here there opinion.  I really care not about an opinion peace that conclude that MS must show me it works because we all came to that conclusion without knowing anything.


I suppose I should stop listening to theoretical physicists since they don't know how to set up experiments themselves.

O_o

You don't need to be a game dev to know EXACTLY how cloud-computing works.

Half my work is writing software. I've played games all my life. I live with 2 game devs. I CAN FIGURE IT OUT. And so can smart people like those at Digital Foundry and EG. It's not rocket science.

Yeah maybe you should stop reading and actually DO it.  Reading about something does not give you practical experience.  I work as a developer on business critical code that are hosted on cloud platfoms.  We run entire business within the cloud.  I know how the technology works very well, what I do not know is how well it will work within games.  There are many different scenerios I can think of that may benefit a game but since I do not develop in those areas they are just ideals.  Most developers know the scene and what the player will be doing in any given moment of their game.  A lot of pre calucations can be sent, processed and stored in memory, thus releaving the CPU/GPU from those task and allow them to concentrate on the immediate input from the gamer.  

You can tell me you have friends who are developers but that means absolutly nothing.  There are many different developers that work on different parts of a game.  Even then, if they have not explored cloud compute, they would be no different from a graphics programmer trying to tell a network programmer how to code against the net.  That whole sentence is a very arrogant statement as if being a programmer immediatly gives you insight into everything without the practical experience.

I have to call this statement out because its one of the big problems with people on the net who THINK they know something without any practical knowledge.

You don't need to be a game dev to know EXACTLY how cloud-computing works.

Have you ever programmed to a platform like Azure or Amazon cloud infrastructure.  Do you even know what it takes to host an entire business on the cloud.  Have you ever coded a game or even an MMO.  Do not tell me about what you think unless you actually have practical knowledge on how its done.  I am not going to sit here and tell you how it will be done just because I develop code.  Without the practical experience, I can only make quesses and even then I would not know if I was on target or not without actually doing it.

There were many developers asked about the whole cloud compute thing and their answers was that they needed to test it.