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dahuman said:
Soundwave said:


I think Nintendo's out of touch Japanese leadership deserves some blame here too, even Iwata has said they haven't done a good enough job explaining the Wii U hardware to many third parties.

They create these extremely proprietary pieces of hardware with odd design priorities (power consumption over raw processing power for example) then it seems like they just dump the dev kit in the hands of a developer, provide a moderate documentation, and then just leave third parties to their own devices.

I don't think Nintendo is doing an adequate job of explaining the hardware to third parties, ensuring that third parties are getting the most out of the hardware specific features, or even really trying all that hard to get developers to be enthusiastic about the platform or understand the product vision.

It's more just "we're Nintendo, you should be happy we're not treating you like it's 1996, here's our dev kit, make some games for it please, k gotta go, bye". It just seems to me like developers are largely left to their own devices once Nintendo drops off their kits and are given minimal direction or understanding of the hardware.

or maybe they just don't give a shit about what the western market thinks since they are making money either way no matter how niche they are, I personally want to see what will happen with them and the push for Indie games on the Wii U.


Well lets hope "they give a shit" in their pursuit of those smaller devs then, because attitude and company effort does matter. Nintendo often doesn't seem to want to do anything that requires effort as a company. Marketing? Can't be bothered. Selling the system to developers or getting them to really utilize it well? Nope. Lobbying for exclusives? We'll meet you half-way, but no closer third parties, etc. etc. etc.

Not giving a shit about the Western market, I wonder also if that might have anything to do with the fact that both the 3DS (yes I said 3DS) and Wii U are performing poorly in these markets. Gee, wouldn't that be a surprise, treat a market like crap or at the minimum be horribly out of touch and consumers go elsewhere. Shocking.

I think it is obvious they made a lot of design choices on the Wii U based on the Japanese market ... but that market doesn't want consoles period, so it's not like even Japanese consumers are embracing the console.