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Rpruett said:
pezus said:
Rpruett said:
Much like every other discussion. People care when it impacts them. So some of the same people here that would just 'scoff' at the notion of banning video games -- wouldn't bat an eye about banning gun ownership. The real reality is we live in a violence promoted society. With the glamorization of guns, weapons, violence, etc and that doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of the psychiatric issues that plenty of people have in this country.

The real solution is to stop trying to blame things that aren't the problem and hold people accountable for their actions. I firmly believe in capital punishment, especially in cases of obvious murder. There is no sense in keeping someone alive for 75+ years in the prison system causing a drain on society.

Cars don't get drunk and kill people, drunk people drive a car and do. Video games don't kill people they are complete fantasy, people who can't readily separate the two realities do. Guns don't kill people, people controlling the weapons do.

The world is a dangerous place, there are uncountable ways to die or to kill someone. You will never remove them all and quite frankly you shouldn't need someone else to *tell* you what you should or shouldn't avoid.

Let's be realistic though. A weapon's purpose is far different from a game's and a car's purpose.

It all depends on intent of the person.  I know plenty of people who own a gun for sport.  Killing maybe animals, but not of humans.  The chasm that exists between this gap is a very large one.  Why not ban knives or anything else that exists primarily for murder?    I think that it's a strange notion to ban guns in a country where we allow abortions (Entirely different discussion)  up until 6 months.    The world has violence and if people want to commit an act of violence, they will find the means and ways of doing so.

The idea that knives "exist primarily for murder" is completely ridiculous.  Did you murder your dinner?  Did you use a knife to eat it?  Knives are tools with myriad everyday applications.  Guns shoot small objects at extremely high velocity into larger objects.  There isn't a lot you can do with them other than killing stuff and practicing to kill stuff, unless you're Homer Simpson. 

And anyway, the current gun control "debate" is about better government oversight of gun sales.  Not more CONTROL.  Just knowing who all those shady dealers are handing out guns to.  How can that be a bad thing?  (inb4 big brother orwellian what-if dystopian future speculation)

I guess there's not a handy Youtube clip, but skip to 14:45 on the episode here:  http://wtso.net/movie/392-905_The_Cartridge_Family.html



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