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TheLastStarFighter on 10 May 2013
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fillet said:
ethomaz said:

fillet said:

It's actually an illusion, the overheating problem in hot countries.

Something that has an inherrant design flaw like the original Xenon Xbox 360 will have RROD accelerated by a higher average ambient temperature - yes. But, an electronic device that isn't flawed will not suffer any bad consequences from being used in a "hot" country, think about it, let's say it's 20c in the UK which isn't exactly hot but not cold either. Then take a country like Brazil where you reside, where I imagine 30-35c is pretty much standard.

That's only 10-15c increase in ambient temperature which translates to a 10-15c increase in temperate of your electronic device.

In the case of a standard CPU, most are good for at least 85c running 100% load 24/7.

So, back to the electronic devices using those CPUs, the Xbox Slim has a cutoff point where the fans increase considerably when the CPU reaches 80c. The standard cooling system built into the Xbox Slim is capable of easily taking that temperature down to 55-60c with increased fan speed. I know this because I have an RGH Xbox 360 which monitors all temperatures of CPU/GPU/RAM/Ambient. At "auto", which means the Xbox 360 is controlling the temperature it will reach about 75c, if I control the fans myself and put them at say 65%, that temp goes down to 55c-57c.

This means that the built in cooling system is easily capable of keeping an Xbox Slim adequately cooled anywhere in the world.

I imagine that the PS3 cooling system is equally as adept, since the PS3 slim fan noise has a massive variation in noise output.

 

:)

Most consoles have trouble with temperatures here in my country... in PC the cooler box have trouble too, so we use better cooling system.

My PS3 Slim when the temperature is so hot freezes a lot (playing the game and it freezes) but when it more cool they never do that... when I put a fun to cool the things I have no touble too.

So the country temperature matters.

Fair comment, I can't exactly say you're wrong if you have first hand experience with this. It does sound quite bizarre though. I used to overclock a lot of stuff years ago on the PC and ambient temperature does matter when you are already on the edge of what the CPU/GPU can do, but if you're already in the safe zone then things shouldn't be freezing up, no matter the ambient temp.

If you check the PS3 packaging, it will list it's safe operating temperature in the back of the manual no doubt (can't find mine). On electronic goods, this is generally at least -5c to +40c and obviously there would be a buffer of a few degrees either side to ensure that claim is upheld.

Still, appreicate the response...why I do I never agree with anything you say...strange world :p

The flaw in your earlier reasoning is that an increase in 15dgrees in ambient temp does not simply mean an increase in 15 degrees in your electronics temperature.  There is a direct relationship between rate of heat transfer and difference between two temperatures.  So if we go from a 20 C region to a 30-35 C region, there is a significant reduction in the difference between the device temp and the ambient temp.  That means not that the device will be hotter, but that heat will leave the device at a much slower rate.  This could cause a greater rate of failure.  Since circulation dramatically increases the rate of heat transfer, adding fans would help.