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oniyide said:
KHlover said:
oniyide said:
Bong Lover said:
Developer also says

"I think Nintendo has a lot to gain from being more like Sony, by reaching out to developers and that way get more developers with them.

If that were to happen, you feel more enthusiasm as a developer, and perhaps you'd be inspired to make something cool, something good. In the case of Nintendo this could be something based on the GamePad for the Wii U."

(This is my translation)

So developers are children who need approval and encouragement from Nintendo to be inspired to develop something cool or good?

This is a laughable excuse and quite discouraging to see grown men fall back on this kind of thinking. In the real world it works like this:

You have the dev kits, you either use them to make something or you don't. It's up to you. Don't pretend that Nintendo needs to reach out to you, that it's too difficult to figure out how to do it, that you would like to do something it's just all these things that are out of our hands. This is excuse driven thinking and not the domain of men, that is how children think.

Finally, I think it's only fair to point out that the guy is Swedish, and that perhaps it reflects poorly on me to expect clear analytical thinking from a Swede.

then you need to read it again. Avalanche probably wanted to work with Ninty before but they didnt pay them any mind, probably because they were a small dev. That makes alot of sense, i would see Ninty answering there phone calls either.

Now they are with a publisher (SE) that can get Ninty on the phone, unfortunately, SE may feel that whatever the studio is working on (im assuming Just Cause 3) is no viable for a Ninty platform, hence why they havent even used dev kits.

How comes we see so many Indy games with far smaller teams on the WiiU then? This is BS and I think you know it.

are you serious? You dont know what you are talking about. Avalanche has been part of SE for YEARS. LONG before WIi U was even thought of. THe last game they made was JC2 which came on in 2010, if im not mistaken. Wii U has nothing to do with Avalanche when they WERE independent which was years ago. THey cant do crap for WIi U unless SE approves, take it up with them. And when they were independent Ninty didnt have an indie scene, hell i think Ninty didnt even have an online scene, read it again.

Read my comment again. Where did I say Avalanche is an Indy dev? You suggested Avalanche got ignored by Nintendo because they are a relatively small team. They still are. At no point in your comment did you give any date, so it was reasonable to expect you'd be talking about the current situation, especially since this entire thread is about the current situation.

I responded to your comment by pointing out that Nintendo apparently DOES work with small dev studios, as proved by all the Indy games being released on the WiiU.

 

PS: The Wii had a Indy scene back then, have you already forgotten WiiWare?