Kasz216 said:
Torillian said:
Kasz216 said:
But Math says we won't.
Godel's incompleteness theory seems to more or less prove we will never find a complete science of the universe... even if we were to brazenly assume that humanity will always live on and not be wiped out.
Hell, we can't even prove math.. so really everything we think we're sure of... we aren't.
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Sure we'll never be 100% certain of anything, but we'll learn more and more about it and I think we'll get a pretty good idea of how the universe began before too long. I mean think of the gigantic strides science and technology have made in the lifetime of our parents or their parents. To say "science will never ascertain _____" seems highly presumptuous to me as science is just the means by which humans study the world around them and try to understand it, and I think one day we will have the technology to study things as difficult as the beginning without invoking "god did it".
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How do you science yourself around a mathematical law?
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What an irritating little response, congrats for that I suppose.
Alright so I've read over Godel's Law as much as I think is reasonable, so you tell me how this means we'll never know how the universe began? I already stipulated that we won't know everything about it ever, but tell me why this law means we'll never even have a clue at it. Do your best to use small words so I can science myself through reading it.
To my knowledge it seems like you're going to have to prove that the theorem (not a law btw) applies to this question and not just the systems that it is stated for.
