ESPN journalist Chris Broussard on NBA's Jason Collins: Homosexuality is a sin and living in sin isn't Christian

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naruball said:

mrstickball said:

A lot of Christians discuss self-abuse, pre-marital sex, and the like. The tattoo thing is iffy, as its only mentioned in Leviticus, and most Christains would tell you that they follow NT laws, not OT laws.

I agree that Christianity is rather hypocritical about what they follow - divorce and adultery are mentioned more than any other sexual act, but we don't really hear a lot of preaching on it as much as we do homosexuality. I have no idea why they obsess on that one sinful act - I think its mostly from the older crowd that simply isn't used to dealing with such topics as much as they are other things.

As for the obesity statement - if the Bible said that I could only marry obese girls, and I didn't like obese girls.... I wouldn't get married. You know, exactly like what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 7. He said that sexual laws were hard to follow, and he believed the best option was to simply be celbate, as there were a lot of pitfalls in regards to following proper Christian sexual practice. We're supposed to live our lives as changed people for the cause of Christ. Everyone has things they enjoy that aren't comapatable with Christianity. They're supposed to forsake those things, regardless of what they are. Making excuses for such things is simply that - trying to make excuses. It doesn't matter what the sin is, you're supposed to do your best to give it up.

First of all, thanks for the great response. It's good when you can disagree on something, but have a good discussion nonetheless.

Here are a few things I disagree with: who decides what is right and wrong in the bible? I undestand if somoene says I follow the new testatement, but if you say the biblie, you have to follow every part of it and pay equal attention to each part and not whatever you can avoid easily. For example, when I used to fast with my parents, I had no problem not eating meat, simply because I don't like meat as much as everyone else. So, I'd find it hypocrticial of me I were to tell my dad that he should be a better Christian and avoid meat, when he was used to eating it every day and he had a huge craving for it (gorwing up in a village, they were told that you didn't have lunch, unless you had some meat too).

I think apart from closeted homosexuals who express disgust against homosexuals just to avoid suspicion, the rest of the Christians who express such hatred and place such emphasis on homosexulaity do so because they simply don't have to deal with it. Of course it's easy when you don't like men to tell other men that that's a sin. But what about when you can't resist food and eat like an animal? (isn't gluttony a sin?). My point is, it may be easy for you to say that you wouldn't marry obese girls, but that's just in theory. Imagine a life where everyone around you seems happy, gets to have children, have their weddings, someone they can count on, talk about their daily problems with, and you get to enjoy none of it (so not just sex, but pretty much anything related to love), because of the way that you were born . The only explanation I can give for that is that God gives such people a harder test to prove their faith. But at the same time, I think it's pretty much impossible for more than 90s% of humans to spend their entire lives alone (without a significant other).

Can you picture the rest of your entire life being alone (apart from friends and family)? And like I said, maybe you can in theory, buit in practice it's much more difficult. 

Following just the New Testament exclusively has been a common trait throughout Christianity. Read the book of Romans, and other writings through the New Testament, and you'll understand that Jesus Christ fulfilled the Old Testament covenant, and from that, gave us the laws of the New Testament.

Can I picture my life being alone if it were for my orientation? I don't know. But what I do know is that I would trust in Jesus Christ as being the source of my joy, not in people. I understand that for some, following such a commandment would be hard, but there are lots of commandments in the New Testament that are hard to follow. Look at Galatians 5:19-21 and what to avoid as Christians. I fail to see why one would want to separate them out and try to justify some of them, when its obvious that everything is a package, and correlates with each other (the same can be said with the fruits of the spirit).