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mrstickball on 04 May 2013
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naruball said:
mrstickball said:
naruball said:

There's a huge difference between considering something a sin and expressing your opinion in a way that affects other people. As a Christian I strongly disapprove of people who cheat on their partners and of people who desire other people's wives/husbands/gfs/bfs, but I don't go around calling them sinners, though they do sin. If they were to ask me, I'd tell them that yes, it is a sin, but it's none of my business or place to tell them what to do. 

Also, by telling gay people that you don't like their lifestyle is more similar to telling black people that you don't approve of their "blackness" than telling cheaters that they sin when they're cheating, as being gay is not a choice.


Being gay in and of itself is not a sin. But the act is. It's been referenced throughout Christendom.

There are many things that people are inclined to do through genetics, yes. But the whole idea of Christianity is to grow and overcome things that are inherent in the fleshly nature.

Take pedophilia. Some may say that its a natural affinity. Does that make it right? Should it be something that people should strive to overcome, or simply say "I can't help it, I must let it rule my life"? No, Christianity is affront to that.

Sexuality is wrapped up in a lot of different lifestyles, and people can be born many different ways. That is why Paul, when discussing sexuality, said that he wishes more people would be as he was - celebate - but knew that such a choice was very difficult, thus why he perscribed heterosexual marriage as an alternative.

 

I'm aware of the bolded. I mentioned that in another comment. 

You can't really compare homosexuality and pedophilia. I'll refrain from explaining why, as it is argument which has been discussed to death. 

Again, the point is not whether homosexual relationships are a sin. That is a fact accodting to the bible. It's stated beyond doubt imo (though some disagree with the interpretation; I still think it's beyond doubt). My argument is that no one (ok only a few people) make an effort to condemn self-abuse, tattoos, premarital sex, etc. Have you seen any people with signs outside frat houses warning them of their sins? Because I'm aware that certain Christians go to funerals of gay men and cause unnecessary emotional pain to the deceased's family. Why don't they go to people's funerals who were divorced, or had premarital sex? Why the obsession with homosexuality?

Also, I'd really appreciate if you were to read my comment on obese girls. Would you date one if the bible told you so (I know it doesn't, but please entertain the possibility for a second). Would you fight your urges for a girl you're are attracted to and either stay alone for the rest of your life or marry a woman you're not attracted to and have a miserable (for both you and her, probably even the kids) marriage?

 

A lot of Christians discuss self-abuse, pre-marital sex, and the like. The tattoo thing is iffy, as its only mentioned in Leviticus, and most Christains would tell you that they follow NT laws, not OT laws.

I agree that Christianity is rather hypocritical about what they follow - divorce and adultery are mentioned more than any other sexual act, but we don't really hear a lot of preaching on it as much as we do homosexuality. I have no idea why they obsess on that one sinful act - I think its mostly from the older crowd that simply isn't used to dealing with such topics as much as they are other things.

As for the obesity statement - if the Bible said that I could only marry obese girls, and I didn't like obese girls.... I wouldn't get married. You know, exactly like what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 7. He said that sexual laws were hard to follow, and he believed the best option was to simply be celbate, as there were a lot of pitfalls in regards to following proper Christian sexual practice. We're supposed to live our lives as changed people for the cause of Christ. Everyone has things they enjoy that aren't comapatable with Christianity. They're supposed to forsake those things, regardless of what they are. Making excuses for such things is simply that - trying to make excuses. It doesn't matter what the sin is, you're supposed to do your best to give it up.



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