MrBubbles said:
thranx said:
MrBubbles said:
Max King of the Wild said:
wow.... he didnt say he didnt like him first of all. and he is not being intolerant.
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telling a christian they arent christian because they disagree with them and then condemning them for how they live is pretty intolerant. as well as pretty indicative of their personal opinion on them.
and finally,
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he doesn't condfem them in any way. he actually says he is fine with them as long as they dont harp on him. he seems to be very understanding, at least from this qoute:
""“In talking to some people around the league, there’s a lot of Christians in the NBA, and just because they disagree with that lifestyle, they don’t want to be called bigoted and intolerant and things like that. That’s what L.Z. was getting at. Just like I may tolerate someone whose lifestyle I disagree with, he can tolerate my beliefs. He disagrees with my beliefs and my lifestyle, but true tolerance and acceptance is being able to handle that as mature adults and not criticize each other and call each other names….
“Personally, I don’t believe that you can live an openly homosexual lifestyle or an openly premarital sex between heterosexuals, if you’re openly living that type of lifestyle, then the Bible says you know them by their fruits, it says that’s a sin. If you’re openly living in unrepentant sin, whatever it may be, not just homosexuality, adultery, fornication, premarital sex between heterosexuals, whatever it may be, I believe that’s walking in open rebellion to God and to Jesus Christ. I would not characterize that person as a Christian because I do not think the Bible would characterize them as a Christian.”""
I cant find anything wrong in that. He also does not say they aren't christian, merely that they are sinning, along with anyone who has sex out of marriage.
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"I would not characterize that person as a Christian because I do not think the Bible would characterize them as a Christian" aka they arent a christian.
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I'm thinking your anger glasses are interfering with your ability to fully understand what he said, which is really quite simple. He didn't say 'there's no way he's a Christian', he said (please pay attention to the key phrase in BOLD) "I WOULDN"T CHARACTERIZE THAT PERSON as a Christian because I DO NOT THINK the Bible would...' By saying 'I wouldn't' and 'I do not think', he was clearly framing this as his personal opinion on the matter, and in no way being intolerant. The first paragraph is pretty clear that he's not expressing hate, dislike, personal judgement against, or any intolerance at all (really quite the opposite), but merely (and very obviously) a personal opinion on specific actions or lifestyles, not just homosexuality, and not any judgement on the person. He even went as far as to equate the homosexual lifestyle to sex before marriage, just expressing his personal views on the subject.
I disagree with his assessment about the guy not being a Christian, because Christianity is not just about rules and never 'sinning', but accepting a personal savior to forgive your sins, but nothing in his statement was bigoted or intolerant of any individual or group.
