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naruball on 01 May 2013
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Why are you condemning him for his opinion? That's pretty ignorant. Christians don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle; you act as if that's news?

i know enough christians who do

There is a difference between being accepting and loving people (which is what Jesus taught and what Christians should strive for) and agreeing with it.

If you say being a homosexual is a sin, then you're not accepting and loving and therefore it could be argued that you aren't a good Christian. I would also argue that accepting and loving someone is the same as "agreeing" with him. Agreeing doesn't mean you yourself have to do the same things homosexuals do. It just means that you understand that not everyone prefers the same gender as you do.

Do you even understand what a Christian is?

A Christian takes certain stands against certain acts and lifestyles. You can accept and love someone, but still know what they do is sin. If you cannot understand that concept, then I don't think you understand Christianity at all.

There's a huge difference between considering something a sin and expressing your opinion in a way that affects other people. As a Christian I strongly disapprove of people who cheat on their partners and of people who desire other people's wives/husbands/gfs/bfs, but I don't go around calling them sinners, though they do sin. If they were to ask me, I'd tell them that yes, it is a sin, but it's none of my business or place to tell them what to do. 

Also, by telling gay people that you don't like their lifestyle is more similar to telling black people that you don't approve of their "blackness" than telling cheaters that they sin when they're cheating, as being gay is not a choice.


Being gay in and of itself is not a sin. But the act is. It's been referenced throughout Christendom.

There are many things that people are inclined to do through genetics, yes. But the whole idea of Christianity is to grow and overcome things that are inherent in the fleshly nature.

Take pedophilia. Some may say that its a natural affinity. Does that make it right? Should it be something that people should strive to overcome, or simply say "I can't help it, I must let it rule my life"? No, Christianity is affront to that.

Sexuality is wrapped up in a lot of different lifestyles, and people can be born many different ways. That is why Paul, when discussing sexuality, said that he wishes more people would be as he was - celebate - but knew that such a choice was very difficult, thus why he perscribed heterosexual marriage as an alternative.

 

I'm aware of the bolded. I mentioned that in another comment. 

You can't really compare homosexuality and pedophilia. I'll refrain from explaining why, as it is argument which has been discussed to death. 

Again, the point is not whether homosexual relationships are a sin. That is a fact accodting to the bible. It's stated beyond doubt imo (though some disagree with the interpretation; I still think it's beyond doubt). My argument is that no one (ok only a few people) make an effort to condemn self-abuse, tattoos, premarital sex, etc. Have you seen any people with signs outside frat houses warning them of their sins? Because I'm aware that certain Christians go to funerals of gay men and cause unnecessary emotional pain to the deceased's family. Why don't they go to people's funerals who were divorced, or had premarital sex? Why the obsession with homosexuality?

Also, I'd really appreciate if you were to read my comment on obese girls. Would you date one if the bible told you so (I know it doesn't, but please entertain the possibility for a second). Would you fight your urges for a girl you're are attracted to and either stay alone for the rest of your life or marry a woman you're not attracted to and have a miserable (for both you and her, probably even the kids) marriage?