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ethomaz said:

g911turbo said:

Have not heard / read that the Wii U is more difficult to develop for than the Wii.  Seems like BS to me, but would love to see a source.

 

Yes the Wii U was not as "cheap" as the Wii.  Agreed.  But, their BOM cost is most likely in a better position for a 50 dollar or more price cut.  That's an assumption, I admit.

 

Wow factor, remains to be seen.  Who DOES have wow factor this time around?

Mid 2012 article... so no Nexbox/PS4 comparision... the comparison was with PS3/360 and Wii.

"The ease of use compared to other consoles is assuredly attractive, too. By comparison, 63% of developers who spoke to IGN said the Wii U would be the most challenging platform to develop for. One creator went as far as saying, “we won’t be working on Wii U due to these complexities,” while another lamented the difficulty of moving innovative games unique to Wii U to other platforms. This poses the question: Will Nintendo once again need to rely primarily on first-party games to propel platform success? At any rate, the Wii U’s 2012 release window gives it a distinct advantage: time."

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/01/the-next-generation-according-to-game-developers

The Wii U is expensive due the Pad... Nintendo lost money with each Wii U unit sold... the Wii was so cheaper that even after price cut the Nintendo never lost money with unit sold. Nintendo can't make a Wii U price cut soon because this issue but I expect something close to Nextbox/PS4 release.

Well Wii sold better over PS3/360 because the WOW factor... after that it started to sell less and there are today a real chance to finish this gen in second place after the fastest launch ever... that's a issue because WOW factor didn't sustain a console for years... the hype just happened in the first three/four years... after that or the console have enough power to stay some more years in the market or you need to release a new console.

The Wii U didn't have neither WOW factor or power to mantain good sales in the first years... that's my point for now... I can't see a BOOM in the Wii U sales in the future because it have no attractives for now... new games like Mario, Zelda (well Zelda is not a hardware mover), etc will give momentaneos boost in sales like happened with GC but nothing like Wii.

I think Wii U will finish like GC in third place  in this next gen... PS4/Nextbox will top it in less than two years after release.

PS. And that's just my opinion... feel free to disagree and share your opinion... there are a mod in Nintendo area that thinks I'm trolling Nintendo or Wii U... so I can be wrong at the end and Wii U became a success and you can show some good points that change my mind about it.

I don't think you trolling.  Although some people on here constantly, underhandedly jab at a certain company and then claim ignorance later.  Doing that too much invited the mods to notice - its like throwing a grenade into a room, running away, and then saying "what did I do?" later.  Keep it civilized and you'll be ok.

That being said the article you provided compared PS4/Nextbox/Wii U.  Does not compare Wii to Wii U as you initially made it sound.  We'll call it an honest typo.  With HW constraints (more memory shuffling, GPU constraints, etc.), I can see how developers would prefer the other two over Wii U. 

I agree that Wii U price cut might make nintendo bleed a bit.  They are probably waiting to see where the other two are priced at.

I agree on the software being hard pressed to boost sales minus a few key titles.  Mario Kart + advertising + price cut will move many systems.  I would bet money on it.

I just have a funny feeling that the biggest competitions for ALL 3 systems out of the gate is going to be the current XBOX and PS3.  Cheap and have large library of games.  AND, still getting developer support through the holidays and maybe into next year.