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BasilZero said:
Like I said the state can issue marriage/union laws however they want - its their law, their word.

I know someone is gonna bash me for this (cause it seems like religion is horribly frown upon in this site whether it be positive or negative) but I dont care:

Titus 3:1 ESV 

Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work

^ If the law of the nation says that they should allow such unions then so be it however I dont think the churches should be forced to do something that they dont want to (I understand there are some like in Truck's case) but not all of them would want to do it.

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Also about interracial marriages and underage marriages (cant say much about underage marriage issues since I never heard of any except for people being against marrying at a young age) - I dont think religion/church is the core of those issues, I believe it was more racially (politically wise) motivated especially since it was heavily focused in the US (i.e. those screenshots you posted).

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About the hospital visitation issues - interesting , I didnt know there was a law or rule saying only "relatives" could visit a person at a hospital. I've been in a situation where I visited a family friend in a ICU and my grandmother who was dying at the hospital was often visited by friends, family, people from church, etc.

So this is news to me.


In principle I have no wish to force anyone to do what they don't want to do, including the Church and their members. I do however object to their open protesting of gay marriage and the way they continue to stand in the way of progress and change. I think it would be impossible to force them to hold gay marriages, although eventually they may have to make a choice to either perform them or no longer perform any kind of marriage. This would bring marriage in line with all other equality laws, for example if a couple runs a business they are not allowed to turn away customers based on gender, orientation, race or religion. Churches shouldn't be allowed either, as their discriminatory behaviour is quite frankly wrong.



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