Slimebeast said:
dsgrue3 said:
Slimebeast said:
You're talking against facts here because you hope that to be the case, while we in fact don't know that to be the case.
I personally, partially based on my experience as a medical doctor and because there are studies that suggest it, believe that homosexuality largely is caused by dysfunctional hormonal regulation during embryonal development, which would be enough to meet the criteria for it to be classified as a "brain disorder" (that's how diagnostics work).
I do believe that some homosexuality is programmed and even selected for at the genetical level too, but we don't have clear evidence for that yet.
Note that I don't think this is dramatic in any way because "disorder" doesn't automatically mean something can be or should be "cured".
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I'm not "talking against facts," I'm bringing them to the table. This is where scientists believe the fundamental control occurs.
Epigenetics and hormones go hand in hand and it is absolutely thought to be hormones sent as epigenetic signals during development that produces sexuality. Epigenetics aren't set in stone, they are environmentally impacted.
Classifying homosexuality as a brain disorder is absurd. Call it a recessive disposition, but disorder in this sense is a pejorative. Like I said, it's not thought of as different to left-handedness - and I think you'll fail to classify this as a disorder.
Furthermore, what the hell does "hope" have anything to do with anything? I'm not homosexual, so I've no vested interest in a scientific explanation. I'm bringing clarity to an outdated opinion that it's a brain disorder. It simply isn't; any other assertion is baseless and, quite frankly, ridiculous.
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You claimed that homosexuality "is controlled by epigenetic markers which promote a predisposition". That is not fact, that's a theory. Some homosexuality seem to be controlled by genetic markers, while some homosexuality cannot yet be connected to any predisposition, that's all we can say.
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He says epigenetic markers which potentially supports your original hypothesis about hormonal changes in the mother during embryonic development influencing homosexuality. Hormonal changes in the mother could potentially influence the transcription of non-coding regulatory RNA in the developing embryo. This in turn could influence DNA methylation and effect gene regulation in the baby.
I'm not getting into the brain stuff between you two as I've not read up enough on the topic but you're potentially arguing over a shared viewpoint.
