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richardhutnik said:
KingofTrolls said:
What is Christian about American ideals and American Dream ?
- law - do not kill, do not steal, do not betrayal,etc.
- morality - help others, be useful, love others, be honest,be free but also care about another person freedom, dont break their law
American Dream - improve urself to perfection, build ur property just with ur poor own hands, in legal ways.
Its all about christianity.Even if u deny it with ur arms and legs.

Pretty much all societies have this.  There is nothing really that different with the first two.

On the American Dream, as you describe that, that is suspect from a Christian perspective, particularly with the perfecting by one's own natural efforts.  

Yes, but Jesus Christ was the first one in the world who said that u can not kill somebody even if he'she hurt u, and its better to forgive, try to understand each other, try to talk to him and solve problems in peaceful ways. Did u visited an  radical islamic country just one single time ? North Korea, USSR ? I do, i know the difference my friend. Trust me. Do not make easy judgements with no full knowledge.

All people are equal - no matter of race, property, sex etc. and there are also Jesus words. Decalog, the fundament of all modern law/judegement is  a Christian idea. The whole civilisation of European Union, USA, but also any modern country - democratic, industried etc take their source from christianity. Dont underestimate Jesus ideas, dont try to hijacking of his achievements.

Answer me some questions :

Can I rape any girl in USA with no punishment, no problems after it ? Why not ? I have my sexual desire, why i cannot fullfil it ? Is it breaking my sexual freedom ? 

When u were in trouble, all ur friends, ur parents, ur family leave u alone like a punk, like a dog, or helped u solve problems ?

When u argue with someone, u wanna kill him or maybe try to make consensus ?

Do u judge people without ever meet them once ?

 

For American Dream - I know all people thinks it is only transist, become from poor to rich. There is much more above it. I have meet some ppl from USA and they were just normal guys, any stereopic about Americans, what I heard very often, were fake. i will surely get banned if u show just a few of them ;D