France legalizes gay marriage despite angry protests

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dsgrue3 said:

Slimebeast said:

You claimed that homosexuality "is controlled by epigenetic markers which promote a predisposition". That is not fact, that's a theory. Some homosexuality seem to be controlled by genetic markers, while some homosexuality cannot yet be connected to any predisposition, that's all we can say.

To call it a brain disorder is not "obsolete" or "absurd" for other than political reasons. You choose to compare it to left-handedness because it fits your liberal agenda, but it could just as well be compared to autism-spectrum disorders such as Aspbergers, or ADHD, which are classified as brain disorders.

About hope. Let's not pretend you don't have any premises coming in to this regardless if you personally are homosexual or not (which is really a weak argument). Undoubtetly you will prefer facts that strengthen a genetical explanation rather than a psychological explanation, or discoveries that suggest homosexuality to be a favourable evolutionary trait rather than a random detrimental defect.

It is the best theory at the moment. We have yet to resolve the debate, but we've certainly disproved the notion of a brain disorder.

"Psychology was one of the first disciplines to study homosexuality as a discrete phenomenon. Prior to and throughout most of the 20th century, common standard psychology viewed homosexuality in terms of pathological models as a mental illness. That classification began to be subjected to critical scrutiny in the research, which consistently failed to produce any empirical or scientific basis for regarding homosexuality as a disorder or abnormality."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_psychology

I don't think you understand what the term "premise" means by your misuse of it. I've vested interest in spreading current truths about science; you don't seem to share this interest by your continued defense of your debunked position.

In your opinion it's the best theory (and probably in the interest of liberal lobby groups) that genetic markers have a deep impact on causing homosexuality. Because it fits your agenda. Not because you're scientifically open to any explanation.

Bold: you know that sentence is false. There are evidence that severe hormonal dysfunctions affect sexuality and in turn this would qualifiy it to be classified as a disorder using medical terms, no matter if you like it or not. We just don't know the whole picture yet.

Like I said, it's laughably clear that you're driven by an agenda rather than being objective towards scientific facts.