Xbox Live adds 6 Million members in a single Year, is the hate unjustified?

[Mr Puggsly]

Zkuq said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Zkuq said:

And do you think Steam's Big Picture mode wouldn't work better if Steam was primarily meant for TVs? Besides, for what Steam is primarily meant for, it's very stable. If it was built for TVs from the beginning, you wouldn't experience those crashes. You saying Steam is bad because its TV mode crashes is like me saying XBL is bad because I can't use it on PC. Steam at least on the same level as a service on its primary platform compared to XBL yet it's free. Do you have anything to say about instead of circling around my point.

PC gaming in general can often be unstable compared to consoles. Not just big picture. Anyhow, I'm just pointing out consoles are more simple for the masses.

I don't think Steam is on the same level. Valve doesn't operate the servers for online gaming on 3rd party games. It doesn't offer Netflix either!

Yeah, can't argue about PCs being less stable than consoles. But let's not go there any further 'cause it's not important in this discussion. (In some other discussion it would be, though.)

I'm fairly sure servers for third-party games get shut down more often on XBL than on Steam. Does EA shut down servers for its games on XBL as well as PSN? And then there's the thing that console games commonly use p2p-based solutions instead of dedicated servers which leaves only matchmaking servers for MS to handle. And on PC, you generally don't see such shutting down servers happening because often it's the community that owns the servers and it has worked just fine for ages.  And about Netflix... Well, it's not included in the XLB subscription, is it? Well I mean it technically is but you still have to pay for it in addition to XBL which makes no sense at all.

I'm sure you aren't sure.

Come back to me when Steam offers as much services as Xbox Live. Until then, they aren't equal.