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curl-6 on 18 April 2013
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oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
Mazty said:
curl-6 said:
Mazty said:

Because CoD is the best selling game...? Hardly a strawman to bring up the most successful game series of this generation...

"Keeping gameplay central to experience"...while ignoring anything and everything else? Graphics, storyline, innovative gameplay (waggling a stick doesn't count)...That's my thoughts on it anyway. At least Crytek and QD push boundries instead of relying on series fans to keep the alive.

Maybe immersion just isn't as important to gamers are developers desperately want it to be.

Gameplay is the core element of gaming as a medium, and Nintendo continue to produce great games on this premise, including some of the most innovative of the last generation. Crytek and QD push boundaries in the wrong direction, pushing gaming AWAY from what makes it unique and effective.

But you're right about one thing, this is off topic.

I think it is, but it's just not widespread enough. If we look at something like Amnesia: I don't want to sleep anymore, one of the main reasons it has been successful is the immersion. 

I would argue the complete opposite but that's not what this thread is about. 

How would you react if the games on the Wii U had considerably worse graphics than PS4 games?

Considering the difference in RAM, I wouldn't be surprised. It wouldn't really bother me though; I enjoyed the Wii more than the 360 despite the graphical disparity.

thats the key word though "me", i find it quite interesting how you bring up COD and say that gamers determine what is immersive, well judging by the sales of the PS360/PC version vs. the WIi one, they DO think graphics are immersive and you are just in the minority. What else could it be? If you claim that the Wii versions are not that different even though people have posts whole lists showing you that is simple false. Seems to me that people value content and visuals over "better" controls that you believe the WIi version has. If that were true why did the Wii versions sell so poorly in comparison? Hell the games were even cheaper. Cant blame ads, 360 had a monopoly on that, still didnt stop PS3/PC versions doing much better. Thats not just COD either, just about every multiplat core game does better on PS360. If you got a better reason why that is id like to hear it. 

OT this sounds like deja vu, no different than the Wii were that was alot of wishing on stars and we all know how that turned out. Maybe it wont be as bad this time.

I didn't apply the immersion point to COD though. And if people really valued graphics that much, they wouldn't buy the 360/PS3 versions, they'd only buy it on PC. Hell, they'd buy Battlefield 3 and Crysis instead if it was that important to them.

And the lists don't prove me "false," they don't change  that the core  structure, guns, perks, story, etc are the same.

Th Wii missed out on the explosion of the series with MW1, thats why it sold so much less. Before that, COD on Wii outsold COD on PS3.