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happydolphin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Look, I love the games that are coming out as well (especially from Sony) and they are pumping out great graphics and worlds but its time to take it a step further and devs have been proving their case in spades. I was questioning their motives just like you because I didnt expect such a leap in graphics. If you're a PC gamer this isn't that big of a leap, if you're a console gamer it's pretty damn big. I had to watch my roommate play the same games I was playing on console with a fully loaded PC and it is sad how much we missed out on graphically and when it comes to fluidity in these games. Now with next gen tech they will be pushing even more like animations, lighting, shading polygons, (quantic dream: Emoting), 

David Cage at the PS4 unveiling talking about next gen emotion and that its now finally possible physically to show emotion properly (also the jump in graphics from all of their games to the PS4's hardware polygon count). He stated that the quality reserved for CG films is now available on consoles in games.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw1l_C4kXrg

Unreal 4 tech demos (as per your Gears of War comment):

(Newest) Infiltrator demo (2013):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bLOi3mo9NE

(Oldest) Samartian demo (2011):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdwHrCT5jr0

Next gen is waiting. Theres nothing to hold it back now. This is what I have been waiting for from games or at least close to it.

Now you're just getting me excited. Stop it! Lulz :)

But again, looking at those Unreal demos it shows me that all that stuff is possible today, minus the smoke, minus the lights, minus some of the finer detail. The David Cage stuff is, I admit, very impressive. Then again so is Beyond. So again diminishing returns. 

I was also watching my roomie play Darksiders 2 and it looked much better than darksiders which my other roomie was playing on 360, but it was just more crisp, clear and pretty, kind of like wearing a better set of prescription glasses after wearing the same glasses for a few years. It's nice for sure but it isn't the be all end all of gaming.

I agree the improvements are exciting, but it's not like it'll make the stuff unplayable on the U and that's what I was trying to say. For COD Wii it did make a huge difference, like wearing the wrong prescription of glasses. Here, it's 21/20 vision rather than say idk 20/25 vision. The thing is still playable, it just isn't as nice.

If that compromise isn't reasonable we'll just have to agree to disagree, or until more is seen from both systems. I'm going to get a U and a PS4/720 (one or the other depending on certain factors), but in the end I'm not sure this graphics thing will be more than eye candy at this stage in the game (the industry as a whole). We're reaching a point soon where new consoles won't be needed. I'm pretty sure of that.


We always agree to disagree. It's like you're tearing at my soul on purpose.