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kowenicki said:

But the envronments look substantilly better.  To be fair GT environments are relatively poor even away from a crappy GIF.

What part of the environments looks poor in GT5? I can say what specifc objects looks worst but overall the environments looks great.

Play the same circuit showed in the fig of PGR4 on GT5 and compare it... I can't say GT5 have worst environments than PGR4.