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Slimebeast on 10 April 2013
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Mazty said:
Slimebeast said:
Mazty said:

Yes there is. Let me repeat myself (are you religious by any chance?)

"jesus had a huge impact on Hitlers life "

The false assumption you make is that what was spoken by a man named Jesus ~2000 years ago was correctly recorded into the Bible. For all we know Jesus may have meant one thing, and by the time the New Testament was written, his message may have been distorted, ergo Jesus did not influence Hitler, but whoever distorted the original message influenced Hitler. Following?
Then mix in what historians know about the Bible, and what Theologians know about Christianity (e.g. Hell isn't some magical place, but it was a reference to a shit hole outside of Jerusalem) and it becomes more and more clear that whatever the original message is, it hasn't been repeated in churches for centuries.
Understand?

lol don't make a fool out of yourself.

Hell (Gehenna) was a reference to a shit hole outside of Jerusalem? Ever heard of symbolic speech and allegories?


Thanks for proving me right....? As I said, Hell wasn't some transendental place you went to when you died, but was in reference to an actual place. It's no different to saying to someone now "Don't be like that otherwise you'll end up a crack fiend in the ghetto", but the church translated it into "don't do that or when you die (lolwut?) you'll go to a place of fire and brimstone". Erm k...

There's no debate. You shouldn't read conspiracy theories and myths on the internet.

I'll make it simple and quote Wikipedia:

In the synoptic gospels Jesus uses the word Gehenna 11 times to describe the opposite to life in the Kingdom (Mark 9:43-48).[27] It is a place where both soul and body could be destroyed (Matthew 10:28) in "unquenchable fire" (Mark 9:43).

Gehenna is also mentioned in the Epistle of James 3:6, where it is said to set the tongue on fire, and the tongue in turn sets on fire the entire "course" or "wheel" of life.

The complete list of references is as follows:

  • Matthew 5:22: "....whoever shall say, "You fool," shall be guilty enough to go into the, 'Gehenna.'"
  • Matthew 5:29: "....it is better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to be thrown into, 'Gehenna.'"
  • Matthew 5:30: "....better for you that one of the parts of your body perish, than for your whole body to go into, 'Gehenna.'"
  • Matthew 10:28: "....rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in, 'Gehenna.'"
  • Matthew 18:9: "It is better for you to enter life with one eye, than with two eyes to be thrown into the, 'Gehenna.'"
  • Matthew 23:15: "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you... make one proselyte...twice as much a child of 'Gehenna' as yourselves."
  • Matthew 23:33, to the Pharisees: "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how shall you to escape the sentence of, 'Gehenna'?"
  • Mark 9:43: "It is better for you to enter life crippled, than having your two hands, to go into, 'Gehenna,' into the unquenchable fire."
  • Mark 9:45: "It is better for you to enter life lame, than having your two feet, to be cast into, 'Gehenna.'"
  • Mark 9:47: "It is better for you to enter the Kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes, to be cast into, 'Gehenna.'"
  • Luke 12:5: "....fear the One who, after He has killed has authority to cast into, 'Gehenna;' yes, I tell you, fear Him."
  • James 3:6: "And the tongue is a fire,...and sets on fire the course of our life, and is set on fire by, 'Gehenna.'"

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gehenna