Slimebeast said:
Mazty said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Mazty said:
Max King of the Wild said:
AnthonyW86 said: The most influencial? Maybe. Most famous person in history? Without a doubt.
I think it depends on the person how much influence Jezus hade on their lives. For me a lot of people have made a bigger impact on my life: Arnold Schwarzenegger, Shigeru Miyamoto, Michael Schumacher and even people like Adolf Hitler have influenced me much more than Jezus, being in a good or bad way.
But if we really looking at a person's personal life, their parents, brothers, sisters or partners will probably have hade a bigger influence.
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Jesus had a huge impact on Hitlers life which is the point. Directly maybe someone has a bigger impact for you but indirectly there is no debate who is the most influential person
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The false assumption you make is that what we regard as the words of Jesus are actually that, when in fact most historians will say that the Bible is comprised of stories decades and centuries after, and theologians will tell you that the Bible is grossly misinterpreted.
Jesus didn't have an impact on Hitler - the Church did. Big difference.
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There is no false assumption on my end.
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Yes there is. Let me repeat myself (are you religious by any chance?)
"jesus had a huge impact on Hitlers life "
The false assumption you make is that what was spoken by a man named Jesus ~2000 years ago was correctly recorded into the Bible. For all we know Jesus may have meant one thing, and by the time the New Testament was written, his message may have been distorted, ergo Jesus did not influence Hitler, but whoever distorted the original message influenced Hitler. Following? Then mix in what historians know about the Bible, and what Theologians know about Christianity (e.g. Hell isn't some magical place, but it was a reference to a shit hole outside of Jerusalem) and it becomes more and more clear that whatever the original message is, it hasn't been repeated in churches for centuries. Understand?
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lol don't make a fool out of yourself.
Hell (Gehenna) was a reference to a shit hole outside of Jerusalem? Ever heard of symbolic speech and allegories?
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Well true or not Jezus his story and other parts of the bible did play a large rol in choices that people like Hitler made, Max King is right about that.
For me though the question is will Jezus still play a big rol in the future? Or more importantly, did he result in anything constructive to the benefit of mankind, or the advancement of the world as we know it? To be honest, i can't think of one good thing Jezus or the Bible will have brought mankind if we look back at it in the future. And i think in the end that that's what truly defines someones influence.