Michael-5 said:
| TheLastStarFighter said:
People say Mario Sunshine, Zelda: Windwaker, Smash Brothers, Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, Metroid Prime and MarioKart DD couldn't sell Gamecube and they were amazing games. I'm sorry, but they aren't.
First of all Sunshine released years after the GCN released. GCN released with Pikmin, Luigi's Mansion and Super Smash Bros Melee, with Metroid Prime coming a year later. Metroid Prime and Super Smash Bros. Melee are often considered the best games in their respective franchises, they were amazing games.
Well, they may be great games, but I wouldn't know, because I didn't play them and didn't want to.
Then how can you argue that they weren't amazing?
I bought a PS2 instead. And an XBox. Metroid Prime may be amazing, but to me it looked weak and boring compared to Halo.
Metroid Prime has the same metascore as Halo, and I would argue is the better game.
Now, when I saw Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda: TP and Wii Sports, I was sold on a Wii in an instant. The realistic, epic-looking Zelda and the mind-blowing Mario Galaxy were spectacular.
So Metroid Prime and Smash Bros. Melee, games which appeal to adults, are weak and boring, but Twilight Princess, a port, is not?
You do realize that Super Smash Bros. Melee has outsold Twilight Princess on a console which sold about 1/4th as many systems? Melee is over 7 million, Twilight Princess is under it.
When it comes to Wii U, we haven't seen the major titles yet. I would have every reason to believe that Nintendo has learned what sells and what does not, and Wii U will be receiving Wii-like titles that are system sellers. The Mario will follow that path of Galaxy and be impressive visually and have an appealing theme. Mario won't likely be going on vacation again, ever, especially with WiiU sales struggling. Zelda will likely be a back-to-basics graphical showcase that sucks in core gamers. No waterguns. No toons. As such, the games will likely appeal to a broad audience - the Wii audience - and move systems.
Also, the Gamecube was a purple lunchbox with a legoland controller.
People make fun of the Wii U controller too you know.
I know some of you may have loved it, but most adults and many teens wouldn't touch it, rightly or wrongly. No amount of good games could sell it. Wii U is sleek, black (or white) and contemporary looking. Give it games and people will be happy to have it in their living room.
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You're just as niave as they come.
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I'm not niave, far from it. I have a very good grasp of human nature. I know what people find appealing, and what they don't. What appears to be the problem is that you and many others in this thread - because of their own passions - can't properly read what I wrote.
-I never said Gamecube games were bad. They may have been excellent. I said they didn't have mass draw, which they didn't, because of their themes and styles. This isn't prime or smash brothers, but rather Mario and Zelda. Not to mention MarioKart "DoubleDash" which sounds a bit like a spin off, unlike Mario Kart Wii, which sound like a new version of a classic.
-A never said Metroid wasn't better than Halo. I said it didn't sound or look as cool. Please try to understand this distinction.
-I don't know why you are comparing Zelda with Smash brothers instead of Zelda with Zelda and Smash with Smash. I think that would make much more sense but support your point much worse.
-People may mock the Gamepad, but do you honestly, seriously think it - and its system - are as polarizing and childlike as the purple gamecube? No? Then why comment on the gamepad? If you want to actually take a stance and say the WiiU is uglier than Gamecube, go ahead, otherwise what you are saying has no value. The appearence of the gamecube, it's child-size discs and everything about it scared people from enjoying its games.
I'm sure many Gamecube games were amazing and spectacular. I'm going to buy WindWaker HD day one because I never played it before and I think I missed something special.
The fact remains that the Gamecube was a very powerful machine that launched late, was colored purple, had child-size discs, was strictly a core game system, didn't play movies like its competitors and had a Mario game where he used a watergun on vacation and had toon link. The WiiU is a weak 8th gen machine that launched first, looks like an i-device, is colored black or white, has a trendy touchscreen interface, plays Netflix, etc,. Assuming that Mario's 3D adventure sounds like his next big landmark adventure (and not a vacation) and that the original Zelda U isn't a cartoon, they should have an impact on moving systems.
The approach of Wii U and Gamecube are almost entirely polar opposites on every point.
