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eques judicii on 02 June 2007
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Gballzack said:
eques judicii said:
Gballzack said:
Both Sony and MS are losing steam, I don't see many more splashes being made in the ocean by them in the future, things will probably be fairly dull from this point out. Halo 3 will do phenomenally but I think all the people who will get it already own 360s just like I think most the people who want many of the PS3 exclusives already own them. There's no arguing more consoles will be sold, but I don't see the pace of the race changing over games at this point.

wow really? so what sells consoles? marketing and fads?

not even 1 year into the generation and you are already saying that "games" (which is why we buy the consoles right?) won't change how a system sells? 

 The wii might be selling phenomonelly now, but there are plenty of games on ps3 and 360 that people will want (halo 3, bioshock, final fantasy, MGS, Ratchet, mass effect...) and what happens a year from now when the casual crowd no longer cares about the wii?  All those people who played wiisports and then didn't buy any more games?

 I think there are 2 things that sell systems after the inital hype, games and price.  Right now the wii has the price, but with a price drop the 360 could be even with the wii (in price) and have many more games.  I buy my console for the games, not because a clever slogan or everyone around me told me to. 


Price drops won't save the PS3 or the 360, they've both already lost too much momentum. Wii isn't just a fad, it isn't just a gimmick, its a console that tailors itself to the player's lifestyle and seeks to expand the gaming market to new consumers, the tell tale signiture of every console that has ever won a generational war; Pong brought people to home electronic gaming as a novelty replacement for board games, it too was considered a gimick, the Atari 2600 brought huge droves to gaming by featuring a variety of games and showing console gaming can be more than just electronic board games, the NES almost literally redefined the market by bringing so many people to console gaming with it by making gaming fun, fast and convenient as oppossed to computer gaming at the time which was slow and perceived as complicated and a chore, the SNES brought gamers to the market by targeting Teen audiences later in the generation to compete with the hardcore image of the Genesis, The Playstation brought gamers to the market by making gaming cheap, convenient and mature oriented, the Playstation 2 brought gamers to the market with Cinematic sytle gaming and a DVD drive. The PS3 and 360 do little more than push their own hardware and don't really improve upon anything previously done in gaming other than graphics and don't appeal to new gamers, only old ones. Right now there are large groups of fanboys who are convinced HD and high graphics are the direction of course for gaming, but in fact its tying gaming into one's life style that is the future, that is where the Wii will succeed and the PS3 and 360 are failing. MS and Sony are so focused on competitng with eachother and adding more and more features into their increasingly expensive consoles that they've ultimately failed to create any impovements in gamer's life style or convenience of gaming.


fine, minigames and kid games might be your "lifestyle" but nintendo is simply in this to make money... they don't care about you, when was the last time reggie called you to hang out?  when was the last time you brought your wii out on a date?  when was the last time you went to a bar and had the wii out so that you could start a conversation?  When was the last time you went to a park and threw the wii around for catch?  the fact is that the wii gives the perception of lifestyle and cool... but it does nothing for real gamers.  The motion sensing device is old, the tech on the system is old... multitouch systems will replace the wii in 5 years (like microsoft surface and others)

 The difference between the wii and the 360 is that the 360 is giving gamers what they want, a solid online experience, and online community, great graphics and GREAT GAMES!  The wii has 2 great games Zelda and Super Paper Mario.  What other game is "great" on the wii that is not minigame based?

 If the wii wins and the next set of consoles are nothing but minigames, low end graphics and motion sensing control then i'm going back to PC and saying a big F@CK YOU to nintendo.