Did Nintendo screw us?

[Onyxmeth]

izaaz101 said:
Well, that's quite a bit of work you put into that. However, I believe that you are wrong in a couple areas.

The 2 games you quoted at the beginning, Ninjabread Man and Alvin and the Chipmunks - they also appear on the ps2. So, since you used these games to state that Nintendo has quality control issues, I'm assuming that you think Sony has quality control issues as well, yes?

You also stated that shovelware is somehow a new phenomenon, that's never been around before the wii. Shovelware has been around on home consoles before, most notably the ps1 and the ps2. Coincidentally, those two consoles were the consoles that won the generation....much like the way the wii is winning the current generation. And shovelware has been on the handhelds since the gameboy.

Nintendo is in a difficult position with respect to shovelware. They were very strict in the past, and the games on the NES/SNES were fantastic.....but the third parties didn't like that. Third parties left Nintendo very quickly when they had the chance, after the emergence of Sony. They are coming back, although very slowly, and if Nintendo started being strict again, they may just leave again, like before. It's a lose-lose situation.

That's all I have to say for now.

The two games I mentioned are on the PS2. Sony does have quality control issues. The PS2 I feel did not require any sort of quality control because 3rd parties wanted to develop for it, and develop big. I don't feel like i've heard enough from third parties to suggest they feel the same about the Wii. Most of what i've been hearing is that third parties underestimated the potential and will now begin to get their feet wet. I haven't heard too many saying they are diving in.

I did not state shovelware is a new phenomenon. I said this amount of shovelware is new for Nintendo. I did not mention previously that I meant since the GC and the N64. My point was that the Wii is seeing no better third party support than the last console outside of shovelware. I've already backed this up with numbers.

I feel like they lost third parties for a different reason. I feel the cartridges were to blame. The development costs were high and the profit margin low. I feel this is why Sony acquired Squaresoft and the majority support from third parties. Obviously we differ in this opinion.