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dsgrue3 said:
gum said:

Features aren't that important like the example of 3DS show us. Wii didn't sell well because it had motion gaming but because it had Wii Sports which uses motion gaming in a very fun way. WiiU will have the next Wii Sports and PS4/ 720 won't have any more unique features leading to unique fun games for casuals. Hardcore gamers also don't care that much about graphics as the PS1, PS2, even NES, DS, 3DS... have shown us. Games is what matters, features or graphics on the other hand are certainly not a high selling argument as pretty much every generation of consoles and handhelds have shown. I again don't understand how people can think otherwise because there is no proof of this aspects to be that important in terms of hardware success.

"Based on nothing? There was massive hype for the Wii, EVERYONE and their mother knew about it. Go ask a casual if they even know about the Wii U - odds are they don't."

The main casual IPs aren't released yet and the console is too expensive to really aim at casual gamers right now. Measuring the hype of a product from a specific target is also something very difficult and I don't see any strong data nor evidences that show that these kind of gamers won't buy the console when games and prices will be right for them.

Wii sold well because of motion controls. How you can even argue against this is beyond me. That's the whole reason people - casuals and hardcore alike wanted it, because it was different and so easy to use a monkey could do it. Wii Sports didn't revolutionize gaming, it was actually quite terrible all things considered. It was the motion controls that made that game famous.

"Casual IPs aren't released yet" - ZZZzz, nothing is released yet. That's part of the problem. Not enough games!

The casual gamer has no need for Wii U when they can continue to buy casual games for Wii...or their android/iphone/tablet device.


THis this and more of this! the whole "wii did not sell because of motion controls" is insane i think some dont want to see the console for what it was and make up these flat out false statements. By that logic Ninty could have released a WiiSports games with NO motion controls and it would have done just as well. Because we know how much these types of games sold prior to the Wii. Please.

And kudos to you, i thought i was the only one who thought that game was way overrated, i tried to get a Wii without one. boxing didnt work, bowling was bland, as was baseball and gold, the best game; tennis was just an on rails swinging match anyway. Yeah thats real innovative lets take away MORE control from the player. At least they got better in a way. the follow up was better. Sports Champions was a better game than i thought it would be. Kinect Sports is great. Grand Slam Tennis is the tennis game i was waiting for from the moment i saw Wii.