Edit: Games aren't about gameplay no more.

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DevilRising said:

radiantshadow92 said:
gameplay is the best its been in any generation imo

That's your opinion of course, but it's also a very strong statement to make, considering the fact that, for example, in the 8bit and 16bit generations, gameplay was generally the major focus, because while they were still gorgeous for their time (and compared to older polygon games still are), those classic games couldn't get all that elaborate with graphics or presentation, so (at least with the GOOD ones), they had to have a lot of substance. In my personal opinion, the best games from those generations trump anything that has come out since the PS1/N64 era began onwards. That certainly isn't to say that there haven't been some truly amazing, deep and fun to play 3D games. Of course there have. But I think overall, it's not even necissarily a matter of 2D vs. 3D, it's a matter of the more powerful consoles get, and the better graphics get, the more big developers especially raise their budgets and try (pointlessly) to be on par with big budget hollywood films, etc., that games have gotten further and further away from what made then fun and such a great passtime in the first place.

99% of 8 and 16bit games ether have horrible gameplay or are super derivative tho. Have you ever gone back to play a "good" 8bit game (and not one you liked as a kid so have nostalgia for ether)? Not one of the few classics I mean just your average good game for the time, unless you enjoy borderline broken shit I doubt you would last long. It's easy for nostalgia goggles to filter out all the trash and leave only the classics, and also when you were a kid you have much higher tolerance for terrible broken gameplay. There are more people playing games today than ever before so the statement that games have got away from what makes games a great passtime makes no sense ether, and there are plenty of indie devs making games in 8 and 16 styles today if that is your jam there is just so much more variety today than ever before.