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No, not everything that goes into the handheld market can be considered a failure if it doesn't intend to compete with the big guys. It isn't an excuse, its the truth. GPH themselves never wanted to compete against Nintendo or Sony, they said this from day one. You can't fail at something you were never trying to do, now can you? Saying the same for the Gizmondo would be an excuse, because Tiger wanted to take on the big boys and failed. Same could be said for Sony, although I personally don't consider the PSP a complete failure. I never said the GP2X was a success because it sold more than the Gizmondo, I said that to show how poorly the Gizmondo did. A totally unknown handheld from a small korean company, beat out a company that pumped millions into a handheld that was dead from the start. I own a Gizmondo so please don't say I know nothing of it, you assume way too much. Sure I've probably not had it as long as you, but I've had it long enough to compare homebrew and communities, after all it doesn't take long to notice the Gizmondos shortcomings. Yes the Gizmondo has the power and capabilites to become a great handheld, but all of the is useless unless you have the devs. that are willing to take the time to take advantage of all those capabilities, which the Giz doesn't. The GP2X doesn't need help on its commercial library because it was never supposed to be a commercial handheld. Do you understand what I'm trying to say? Do you own a GP2X, because you really don't know what you're talking about when it comes to this handhelds history it seems. I could be wrong and if I am I apologize. I'm not insulting the Gizmondo, its a pretty good handheld that I don't regret purchasing from my friend, but for what I wanted it, which was emulators and homebrew games, the GP2X really is better and the Giz doesn't even come close. I'm speaking from a community standpoint here, not about who was more successful or not. Though the GP2X is still being produced and sold, while the Giz is no longer being made. The only reason I don't call the GP2X a failure in sales is because the handheld has already outperformed its company's expectations. They never hope for it to sell millions or have commercial games or anything like that. Again, you can't fail at something you never set out to do. I never said I hated the Gizmondo, seriously stop assuming so much and I don't think you understand what I'm saying to you, the N-Gage is a failure, because like the Gizmondo it set out to compete with the bigger companies and didn't succeed. While more people know the name Gizmondo most just ridicule the handheld and while the GP2X is a less known name its funny how its sold more huh? Is the GP2X's popularity a failure when compared to the likes of the DS? Of course. But again Gamepark Holdings was after popularity in the niche homebrew market, not the commercial handheld market. lol I wouldn't say every handheld is a "marvels in enginuity", there are some pretty bad ones that I'd consider failures all around ;) You don't have to repeat yourself though, I know where you're coming from. The GP2X is a failure in sales when compared to the DS or PSP. It is also a failure in popularity. Where I'm coming from is that the GP2X was never meant to sell millions, it was just meant to be a contender in the homebrew market, which it is. Can we agree to disagree on that? After all, everything we both said is pure opinion. And I don't mean any disrespect to you as you've been fairly respectful. Only thing I didn't enjoy was you assuming I didn't like or I hated the Gizmondo, which I absolutely do not. The community is one of the nicest around and it can do alot of things, the thing is there's not much people to develop for it. If there was a handheld I hate it would be the DS. I just can't enjoy a single game on the handheld, I'll never enjoy playing with that stylus, but I'm going off topic now.